Alai Payuthey: Slightly Different from Saathiya, Resulting in a Slightly different Meaning

I finally watched Alai Payuthey!  After putting it off for years and years and years and years and years.  Because I love Saathiya, and I didn’t want to risk having it spoiled.  But turns out, they are two distinctly different movies!  Although still similar to Saathiya, so this is going to be kind of a combined review.  I talked about some of these differences a little already when I reported on the OK Jaanu/OK Kanmani remake thing.

I first saw Saathiya shortly after it came out, and promptly fell in love with it.  I’ve watched it so many times by now that I basically have it memorized.  Which was good, because if I hadn’t known it that well, I don’t think I would have been able to easily pull out from Alai Payuthey the little things that were in the original but were dropped from the Hindi remake.  Basically, it’s the same movie.  But Alai Payuthey is about 15 minutes longer, and those 15 minutes add a whole other layer of complication to it.

Oh, and also there’s the casting.  I love Rani, of course, and she did an amazing job with her role in Saathiya.  And Viviek was super charming and endearing and enthusiastic.  But they both felt old.  I didn’t even realize how old they were until I saw Alai Payuthay, and Madhavan and Shalini felt like they were growing up onscreen.  It’s not even that they were actually that much younger than Rani and Viviek, actually Madhavan was older, but they were so much fresher onscreen!

 

Shalini was a child star and had been in a handful of films as an adult.  But Rani Mukherjee had been in over 20 films, including the massive hits Kuch Kuch Hota Hai and Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham.  She was a known quantity to the audience, but more than that, she had a certain gloss and competence on screen.  Her make-up and hair and costumes and mannerisms and line delivery and everything else felt like a movie star, not a person.

And then there’s Madhavan.  A model, a TV actor, 30 years old, but this was his first movie.  And it was like we were just watching him goofing off at the camera.  There was no sense of self-consciousness, or “acting”.  Viviek was starting out, he was fresh and charming too, but it wasn’t his first movie.  He’d made a shockingly good debut in Company the year before, and followed it up with Road.  He was willing to work hard and put on a massive charm offensive at the audience, but in some subtle way I felt like he knew he was on camera the whole time.

And Madhavan just looked so young!  Both of them did, in ways that were in their bones, not created by make-up or styling.  Madhavan had this amazing sort of look like his skin was stretched over his bones, like teenage boys sometimes do after a growth spurt.  And Shalini was so tiny!  Wild hair, little bones, little body.  That’s something you can only get if you cast the actors for the role, taking into account every little aspect, that you want a certain look, a certain freshness, a certain everything else.  And in the Hindi version, they were looking for a hit, they were looking for people who had proved themselves and would get the audience excited, they couldn’t afford to just cast for the roles.

Of course, there’s also the style.  Even though Shaad Ali was trained by Ratnam, he has his own look.  Shaad Ali is about bright colors and clear spaces.  Ratnam is about color filters, and crowded spaces.  They have similar camera movements, moving through spaces and following people, instead of the usual stagnant settings.  But just the little tweaks in lighting and number of props visible, and all of that, gives such a different feel to the film’s world.  Shaad Ali’s version feels like reality, but slightly stripped down.  He wants to tell a story with simple clean lines, and the visuals support that.

Ratnam is different.  He glories in the mess.  There are saris piled in corners of bedrooms and utensils stacked in the kitchen, and in the same way, there are little side notes and hidden points in the characters and their interactions.  Things that just aren’t there in the Shaad Ali version.  Which brings me to those missing 15 minutes.  And the SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

 

 

 

 

 

 

Both movies have the same general plot.  A young man goes to meet his wife at the train, and she doesn’t show up.  The rest of the film cuts between his hunt through the city to find her, and their courtship and life together over the past 2 years.  They met at a wedding, and then weeks later he saw her on a passing train.

He spent weeks tracking her down, based on train schedules and school schedules.  And then he started following her around, trying to start conversations, trying to get her to smile.  Until he finally invited her to his house to meet his family, and she came, bringing her big sister who was the only one from her family who knew of their romance.  Post this awkward meeting, his parents came to her house with a proposal.  Our heroine is in med school, her parents are not eager for her to give everything up for a sudden love marriage.  His family is unhappy with this girl from a less wealthy family that has been suddenly forced on them.  Both sides are rude and dismissive, the meeting does not go well.  The hero keeps pushing, saying he loves her and he can’t just forget the whole thing.  Finally, she leaves for a service trip with a medical group, and the hero takes money from his mother to follow her.  He finally finds her, and she suggests that they just get married, right away, in secret, and keep living in their own homes until her sister is married and things calm down.

Only, at her sister’s engagement meeting, it is going so well that the other family suggests both brothers marry both sisters, and the heroine has to confess to them all that she is already married.  Her father throws her out of the house, and slaps the hero when she shows up to get her.  They ride off to start a new life in an unfinished apartment owned by one of their friend’s uncles, she is still finishing up her residency, and he is trying to get his computer start up off the ground.  At first everything is wonderful, sex and laughter and fun.  But then they start fighting about little things like being late coming home, or moving a file, just pointless fights that keep escalating.  Until the big fight comes, when the heroine learns her father is ill.  She wants to see him right away, and the hero refuses, because they swore never to see their family again, especially her father.  She doesn’t go without him, which finally softens him so he is willing to take her the next day.  But it’s too late, her father is dead.  And then the marriage really starts to crack, because he doesn’t know what to do to make her happy again and nothing seems right.

Finally, on the day it all started, the heroine has just learned that the hero has been going behind her back to fix up her sister’s engagement again.  She is eager to meet him and thank him and solve the problems in their marriage.  And then she is hit by a car.  Our hero spends hours searching for her, and meanwhile there is a last minute cameo from a major star (Arvind Swamy in the original and Shahrukh in the remake) who’s wife is the one who hit the heroine.  He arranges things at the hospital, makes sure the hero is finally tracked down and notified, and comforts his wife at the same time.  Finally, the hero and heroine are reunited at the hospital, she isn’t waking up, he pours his heart out to her, and she finally wakes up and says “I love you” to him for the first time.

That wasn’t too long, was it?  4 paragraphs for the whole movie?  Now that that’s out of the way, I want to cover the little things that aren’t shared between the two films.  And they all kind of add up to one thing, in Saathiya it’s a movie about a marriage and two people struggling to make it work.  In Alai Payuthay, ever so slightly, it’s a movie about Shalini more than Madhavan, her journey and her struggles.

There’s one big thing they dropped in the Hindi remake and it changes everything.  In Alai Payuthay, Shalini has a threat hanging over her, the possibility that her family might marry her off to her cousin and force her to use her medical skills taking care of her complaining aunt.  I can see why Shaad Ali thought he could drop it, because it’s not a real threat.  Shalini’s family loves her, and wants the best for her, even her cousin himself doesn’t think they would make a good match.  But for a while there, in the middle, it feels like a real threat.  To both Shalini and the audience.  And so when she suggests marriage to Madhavan, it’s not just because she is so in love she can’t bare to be away from him, it’s because she wants someone to rescue her from the possibility of a forced marriage.  If they have that piece of paper, even if they aren’t living together, she has protection.

In both films, ultimately, it’s about how a man and a woman approach marriage differently.  For the hero, once they are married, he’s done.  Life is perfect, he has a wife at home, no need to do any more work.  But for the heroine, marriage is when it really begins.  Suddenly she is consumed with all the responsibilities of being a wife, and the huge existential question of if this person who she has given everything over to actually cares about her, can actually take care of her.  And the resolution is him realizing just how much she still matters to him, that he is willing to do whatever it takes to keep her happy.  And her giving in and realizing that she loves him and can stop holding back and waiting for proof.

But in Saathiya, it was always a little strange to me that Rani’s character wasn’t willing to admit that she cared for him at all, and then suddenly was proposing.  I could handwave it away that she didn’t realize how much she cared and how much she missed him until she was out on her own on the service trip, and then suddenly saw him.  But what would she tell herself to explain this decision?  In Rani’s version, the character was so consciously competent and together, you could believe that she never let anyone know he she felt about anything, that it was just her personality, to always deny emotions.  That the proposal was a brief moment where she let her emotions override her mind, and she just denied it and beat it down later, pretending she didn’t feel those things.

But Alai Payuthay is so much simpler, and deeper.  Shalini doesn’t think of it as a “love marriage” necessarily.  She tells herself that she is just afraid of being married off to her cousin, that this is just a stopgap measure.  She holds herself back from giving of herself emotionally.  And part of that is making herself over to an entirely different person post-marriage.  Shalini is just so wild and disorganized pre-marriage.  There is this great moment in her intro song when the music goes up and suddenly she is running free down the street, breaking away from the other woman dancers.

That’s what her whole character is like, breaking free from convention, running away from responsibility.  Until suddenly she is married, and trying to make sense of her responsibilities and suddenly being the woman who gets dressed up first thing in the morning so she will look nice for her husband, and won’t go see her dying father without his permission.  In Saathiya, it’s less shocking, Rani as a good wife and married woman isn’t that different from Rani as a good daughter and serious doctor.  But in Alai Payuthay, we can see the struggle and shock as Shalini does her best to live up to her own expectations for herself in a marriage, without ever admitting that she is doing this out of love, not obligation.

And, because Ratnam is so good, we see how that struggle didn’t just come up overnight, but goes all the way back to Shalini’s relationships with her parents and her family.  In Saathiya, there is a little of that, Rani’s mother and father both have high expectations of her, and her sister is the one who understands her best.  But in Alai Payuthay they sketch in so much more, just around the edges.  Shalini is her father’s, and her sister is her mother’s child.  Her mother resents her giving up her bright future for a love marriage not just because of their sacrifices as parents, but because of what her sister has sacrificed, giving up the possibility of marriage at the regular time, taking a job in a bank to help pay tuition.  Shalini has spent her life being her father’s daughter, resisting the food and home and traditional female path that her mother is set on, letting her sister take that place.  And now she feels like she has to fit herself into that model, like that is how to prove to her mother and everyone else that this marriage wasn’t a mistake or more than she can handle, that she can be the perfect wife and be happy with just a husband and no one else.

Since Alai Payuthay is ever so slightly more Shalini’s story than Madhavan’s, that means Madhavan ends up coming up ever so slightly short compared to Viviek’s character.  Both of them have the same general outlines, a younger son who’s father doesn’t really believe in him, who flourishes once he feels he has the full support of his wife at home, but also falls into a pattern of taking her for granted, and at the same time not fully realizing his own responsibilities.  He has no problem declaring that he won’t take her to see her dying father, but he is honestly surprised that she wouldn’t go without him.

However, in Saathiya, there are just a couple of moments that add a little more to him.  We see him interacting with his father a bit more, we see how his father’s bluff confidence and indulgence is almost more insulting than a direct conflict would be, how much he must need to break off and be with someone who sees him as an adult, someone who looks up to him.

And why Rani’s declaration that “we don’t need anyone else, we are each other’s family now” must have been so important to him.  We also get little glimpses of him as not just a loving happy husband, but a bit of an angry proud one.  Maybe it’s because Viviek was just in Company, but there is the slightest hint of that kind of anger in his performance.  Something about the way his face shifts when Rani’s father slaps him, we can see that this isn’t something he will ever be able to forgive.  And way at the end, there is a moment when the police suggest that Rani ran out on him, and he grabs the police officer and shakes him, like he’s going to kill him.  In Madhavan’s version, he makes a comment about maybe the police officer’s wife ran out on him.  It’s different, it’s still bitter and angry, but it doesn’t have that undercurrent of darkness that Viviek had.  Where you feel like there was a reason he latched onto this difficult woman and tried to win her, like he had to prove something to himself and his father and everyone else.  And the end of the movie resolved that somehow, he learned what was really important in life beyond all his pride.

I am a little miffed that Alai Payuthay dropped my favorite line from Saathiya, Viviek finds Rani at the hospital and says something like “You weren’t on the train one day and everything fell apart.”  It encapsulates his whole journey over that evening, going from just thinking she would be there because she is always there, to awkward hunting while still trying to keep up appearances (calling her boss and pretending there is nothing wrong), to finally bursting into her family home in desperation, no longer caring about any silly pride or vows not to speak to them.  He thought he was a man when he took his wife into his own home and she declared they didn’t need anyone else.  But in the end, what he learned was that it was about expanding out into the world, using this one relationship to build more.

He was fighting his way there already, in both versions we see how he struggles to make his wife happy after her father’s death, once the full weight of the responsibility hits him.  And his final solution is sort of sideways, to fix her sister’s marriage, to take over the undone task her father left, and to unbreak the biggest thing their marriage broke.  It’s the kind of thoughtful above and beyond effort that she has been looking for, a sign that he isn’t just in the marriage for the fun of it, that he has fully taken on his responsibility as a husband as part of the larger social system.  But the accident jumpstarts it, puts their resolution on the fast track.

Only, in Alai Payuthay, even while she’s just lying there, it’s more about Shalini’s resolution than Madhavan’s.  Madhavan is running around looking for her, sure, but so is her family.  We see her cousin, the one she was supposed to marry, notice her in the hospital.  Her sister and mother rush in and talk to the doctor.  All Shalini’s issues about not being loved or appreciated by her family, about telling herself she is rushing into marriage to escape her parents, those are washed away.  Her mother loves her and forgives her, the rest of the family loves her too.  And when she knows that, when she opens her eyes and sees her mother and sister there, that’s when she knows for sure that Madhavan is the one she wants.  If she has everything in the room with her, everyone who loves her right there, she still wants Madhavan, because she really does love him, not just as her husband or as the cute boy who chases her around and can save her from an arranged marriage, but as himself.

46 thoughts on “Alai Payuthey: Slightly Different from Saathiya, Resulting in a Slightly different Meaning

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  2. I love this movie!
    I saw it fully for the first time in March and I couldn’t stop thinking about it for weeks. There is something about Shalini that makes her so charming! I was so disappointed to find out that she stopped acting after this movie. Madhavan was really good too but Shalini has something about her that just makes you want to watch the movie over and over again. Alaipayuthey is my favorite Mani Ratnam movie with Kannathil Muthamittal coming in a close second.

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  6. I was expecting you to point out the differences in the visuals of the songs. Ali’s frames are pretty but Mani’s are simply out of this world- don’t how he finds these beautiful locales in India itself.

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    • I kind of talked about that back when OK Jaanu was first announced I think. There’s some old post somewhere. What struck me was how Shaad Ali made everything just a little more glamorous and sort of artificial. The colors were more carefully chosen, every frame arranged just so, the make-up and hair and clothes all carefully planned out.

      Whereas Ratnam makes everything feel like it just sort of naturally grew that way, like we have somehow caught this people as they are going about their regular lives.

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      • Yes Mani’s scenes are more ‘realistic’ which is why he is the master. But I am talking about how beautiful each one of his frames in his songs- they are very far from reality and are almost dream like. Compare frame by frame the song “pachandaname”(in Telugu) to the one in Hindi(titled saatiya) the mastery will be demonstrated.

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  17. So you see I am branching out with comment spam on almost all your posts. 😛

    I find that we are pretty similar in terms of movies/tv/things we like, so yay, mind-twin! May our tribe increase. 😉

    Coming to this movie (I saw the dubbed Telugu version) what I remember most was what you picked up on – Mani Ratnam’s version looks more real while Saathiya is more put together and feels artificial.

    And actually, I really loved that the story was more about Shalini’s character than Madhavan, because how often do you really see an Indian film heroine dealing with her family, post marriage?

    Usually, if family is ever shown, it’s all the husband’s side of the family (because that’s her REAL family now, duh!) – if it’s a sad “woman-centric” (hate that term!) movie, she’s fighting social ills (dowry! women can’t work post marriage etc. etc.) and if the movie is a happy-happy rom-com, the heroine is “fixing” the family and making them happier or healthier so they (and the hero) can then see the value she brings to the table. :/

    But here, it’s more true to life – the heroine’s family doesn’t just melt away, post marriage. She doesn’t become “part of another family now!” after her wedding, even though she declares that she doesn’t need anyone else, all she needs is her husband, as everyone knows, it was just bravado talking.

    I remember when the movie came out (2000, I think?) that there was a lot of discussion in the media about how this was a more realistic look at what an elopement would actually look like. In so many films (Dil, for one) we are given this really romantic view of elopement – the hero does manual labour to keep his house going — though he is rich and qualified (why???) – the heroine stays at home as a homemaker – despite any education she has or any ambition she expressed previously. And even any fashion choices she made earlier on in the film. There are too many heroines I rolled my eyes at who start out as “modern” jeans-and-shorts wearing women but then end up in sarees and salwars post marriage or commitment. :/ (But that’s another story!)

    And despite their hand to mouth existence, the couple is blissfully happy! Despite the huge shift in lifestyle, they are really and truly happy for the first time because, really, love is all you need! (And not indoor plumbing. Or beds. Or just money in general.)

    And their parents are always wrong, and made to realise the “power of love”. :/

    As I recall (been a while since I saw this film) the landlord is meant to be a parental stand-in when he talks about how marriage – any marriage – requires learning the art of compromise and adjusting, etc. etc. – something that Maddy and Shalini’s parents don’t get the chance to tell them in person in the film. And what SO many parents at the time were trying, unsuccessfully, to tell their own children, in real life. People who wanted to elope while in college, because “their parents -and society – doesn’t understand our love!”

    Wow, this has turned into quite the weird little rant. 😛

    Will stop with this final thought – since you started out by comparing Saathiya and Saakhi (I saw it in Telugu, it will always be Saakhi to me :P) – I find that the version we see first – whether it’s the original or the remake – is the version we end up liking best.

    For example, I saw Saakhi first – and I couldn’t bear to even listen to the Hindi versions of the songs, let alone watch the film. My dad saw Saathiya first – and he prefers that movie and those songs to the Telugu version. It’s a funny thing! 🙂

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    • As I’ve mentioned in various other posts, my relationship with my sister is the closest one I have in the world. And I get so frustrated that so few Indian films explore that dynamic! There are all these great brother-brother films, which is kind of the same thing, but so few sister films! Except for this one. And the way the sisters are developed and relate didn’t feel like they were following a particular template laid down by society, but like real people with their own natural way of doing things.

      I really like this view of elopement because, like you say, it’s not easy and romantic. But it’s also not a mistake. They don’t ruin their lives by eloping, they wouldn’t be happier if they had followed their parents’ advice. There’s an adjustment period, but they get through it. One of the things it took me several watches to appreciate is that all the drama of the car accident etc. isn’t actually related to their marriage problems. That is, their problems were already solved, no filmi drama needed. He made an effort to help her family, she learned about it and appreciated it, they were already on their way to a happier footing just by normal everyday things.

      this is an odd comparison to make, but have you seen Doosra Aadmi? I watched it because it was rumored to be related to ADHM (and then it turned out not to be at all), but it is a really interesting film! A love triangle, in which young husband Rishi becomes enamored of his glamorous co-worker Raakhee and forgets his wife Neetu back home. But the set up for it is a realistic look at a young marriage. Rishi and Neetu are college students passionately in love, so their parents agree to their marriage, even though they are very young. And then post-marriage, Rishi goes out in the world and grows and develops, and Neetu is stuck at home with nothing to do, and they drift apart because they aren’t carefree college students any more and they were too young to really know what they wanted, just like everyone said. In that case, it wasn’t an elopement at all, but it was the same idea that getting married young because you are passionately in love doesn’t really ensure that you will always get along or have things in common.

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  21. I think the reason why they dropped the threat of marrying the cousin in saathiya is because it’s uncommon in North India for cousins to get married, while marrying the maternal aunt/uncle’s son/daughter is common in the south.

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  26. I was thinking the same thing that Rani’s proposal was out of the blue, but Shalini’s didn’t seem like that to me, because of the evano oruvan song. In Tamil, it’s sung by a woman (Shalini) so you realize that she is starting to miss him. Where as in Hindi, mere yaar mila de is sung by a man, so it still feels like Vivek is the only one pining.

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  33. This is a really good comparison of the two movies. Alaipayuthey is too important a movie for me and Saathiya too similar to it for me to truly fall in love with Saathiya. And in that sense, I am in awe of your ability to connect with Alaipayuthey the first time round considering how much you love Saathiya. But seeing other Shaad Ali movies has helped me see the changes in Saathiya as him exerting his own voice rather than just an attempt to make it Hindi friendly. And how all those changes means Rani and Vivek are different characters going through a similar journey rather than shadows of Madhavan and Shalini.

    My only quibble is the idea that the bedside climax wasn’t as focussed on Madhavan. In Saathiya, she is losing him as much as he is losing her. In Alaipayuthe, it is only an imagined threat on her part.Take Chori Pe Chori vs September Matham. Chori Pe Chori is about Vivek lashing out at Rani after yet another fight. In September Matham, Madhavan is having fun with his friends and possibly on a high from fixing her sister’s marriage, oblivious to how miserable he is making Shalini.

    And this inability to console her is what the climax focusses on. It is about how in between stewing in his own guilt and helplessness and helping Poorni, he forgot to spend time with her, hug her, give her a shoulder to cry on. It is about him seeing this guy finding time to hold his crying wife as often as he can in between trying to fix this mess that she made. It is about Aravindswamy telling him to sit by his wife’s bedside instead of lashing out from his own helplessness and devastation. Saathiya’s focus on Vivek finally breaking down at the thought of how alone he would be without her is really a side note in the final scenes of Alaipayuthe. So while I agree, the flashbacks are more focussed on her insecurities and her journey through them, the final climax is as much about him putting the final piece of the puzzle together and getting rewarded with her freely given I love you.

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  34. This is a really good comparison of the two movies. Alaipayuthey is too important a movie for me and Saathiya too similar to it for me to truly fall in love with Saathiya. And in that sense, I am in awe of your ability to connect with Alaipayuthey the first time round considering how much you love Saathiya. But seeing other Shaad Ali movies has helped me see the changes in Saathiya as him exerting his own voice rather than just an attempt to make it Hindi friendly. And how all those changes means Rani and Vivek are different characters going through a similar journey rather than shadows of Madhavan and Shalini.

    My only quibble is the idea that the bedside climax wasn’t as focussed on Madhavan. In Saathiya, she is losing him as much as he is losing her. In Alaipayuthe, it is only an imagined threat on her part.Take Chori Pe Chori vs September Matham. Chori Pe Chori is about Vivek lashing out at Rani after yet another fight. In September Matham, Madhavan is having fun with his friends and possibly on a high from fixing her sister’s marriage, oblivious to how miserable he is making Shalini.

    And this inability to console her is what the climax focusses on. It is about how in between stewing in his own guilt and helplessness and helping Poorni, he forgot to spend time with her, hug her, give her a shoulder to cry on. It is about him seeing this guy finding time to hold his crying wife as often as he can in between trying to fix this mess that she made. It is about Aravindswamy telling him to sit by his wife’s bedside instead of lashing out from his own helplessness and devastation. Saathiya’s focus on Vivek finally breaking down at the thought of how alone he would be without her is really a side note in the final scenes of Alaipayuthe. So while I agree, the flashbacks are more focussed on her insecurities and her journey through them, the final climax is as much about him putting the final piece of the puzzle together and getting rewarded with her freely given I love you.

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    • Thank you for commenting! And sorry your comment got blocked. I’ve approved it now, you shouldn’t have any problems commenting again.

      And what an insightful interpretation of the ending! Yes, that makes sense, Vivek was already miserable and angry, Madhavan was just not connecting at all with her. And they both needed to be shocked into realizing that the most important thing was to just be there and appreciate their wife.

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  35. Everything that you had mentioned was so apt. I could relate to each one it since I had gone through the same thought after watching the two. Loved the way how you creatively distinguished between the two directors.
    Just a doubt,
    ‘I am a little miffed that Alai Payuthay dropped my favorite line from Saathiya, Vivek finds Rani at the hospital and says something like “You weren’t on the train one day and everything fell apart.”’
    Here, Alai Payuthay was released two years ago, when Saathiya had been released. So how does the tamil version dropped the line? it was Shaad Ali who had incorporated a fresh dialogue right? or is it me who didn’t understand the sentence structure?

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