Sorry, the connection was really really fuzzy, so the first bit is very choppy.  But then it gets better.

Podcast!

https://www.podbean.com/media/player/bwbp2-a191cc?from=yiiadmin&download=1&version=1

And direct link: https://pardesipodcast.podbean.com/mf/play/ysngir/Ep_16_Conversation_with_Margaret_on_2_0_and_Simmba_trailer.mp3