Happy Sunday! I am so excited to watch this with you, I’m even willing to wake up super early.
Ponniyin Selvan! I HIGHLY recommend reading my spoiler summary before/while watching it. It is supes complicated.
At 7am Chicago time, I will be putting up a “And PLAY” comment and we will all comment along from there.
Here! Finally!
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Me too!!!
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And PLAY!
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Watching on einthusan so might be a bit ahead you watching on Prime, no idea, but saying just in case
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Prime is warning me that it is 13+ for violence. Really? It’s all swordfights, somehow that doesn’t feel as violent
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Well, THAT is an exciting credits sound.
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I LOVE Vikram’s intro here! Just love him in general, especially when paired up with Aish ❤
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You were one of the my main inspirations behind asking for this watchalong! I am soo happy you could make it!!!
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Yay!! Thank you ❤
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Okay, so we’ve got a king with three kids. POldest is a violent brilliant warrior, middle is a political genius princess, youngest is beloved of the people.
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Thank you for these cheat sheets!
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I miss maps. I love this movie, but I would love it more if they put a map onscreen so I could figure out where they heck we where.
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Oooo, 13 plus violence!
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Okat, this is important for future. Dude who was briefly fighting back to back with Vikram is our protagonist. We are going to see him be a trickster and a talker for the next two hours, so we need to know that he’s also a fearless brilliant warrior he is just smart enough to talk instead of fight.
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I Love Vikram’s haunted look here. Just the perfect role for him. Also, if you want to see him be rugged and act well in a good movie, then watch Mahaan!! Steals the show in it!
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SPOILER: this dude won’t show up again for the rest of this movie, but appears late late late in the next movie. Don’t worry about him.
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The guy in the white is the trickster, right?
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Yep! Who seems silly and flirty and drunk here, but we JUST saw him being a brilliant warrior. He has layers.
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Karthi is so so cute with those flowers in his hair. Also, Vandiyadevan is so Bi-coded in this film along with Arunzhmozi (and book btw, Margaret, you will love book 4 for a surprise character) that it is a hoot to see how he essentially is buddies with three siblings while just hopping along being a cutie little spy.
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Best Rahman soundtracks of the 2020s if not the century, honestly, all bangers in both films
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And this is where the book opens! A two page description of ancient water irrigation systems! No, really.
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Ye olde time of writing for magazines to get the money, I think. Victor Hugo is famous for wording too many words and needing an editor, I suspect Kalki had the same in the 1950s to keep this series going for as long as he could
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I just saw Karthi eating… is this movie going to make me hungry?!
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Oooooo, look at the irrigation systems!!!!!! I have to say, the book is written well enough that I am actually excited to see this part on the Big Screen.
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It is incredible on screen!
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The filmography/shots are amazing! I rarely notice those things unless they are spectacular and here they are!
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Kirre just mad the point about it being written for a magazine. Picking up on that, there are SO MANY plot changes book to movie. Most of them along the lines of cleaning up narrative that was written in serial form and figured out as it went along.
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Semba, the best horse there is!! Also, in the full video there is set up for the taking the clothes joke, which is nice
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1950s India messaging! And also interesting history. Apparently in this era, “Vishnu worship” was a new and rapidly growing religion and lead to lots of violent quarrels between Vishnu and Shiva followers. And yet, people can still be friends….
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And then with the Buddhists later on as well
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Authentically no Muslims or Christians yet, but the point is made, all religions can live in harmony/should live in harmony.
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Interesting. I always knew Mahadeva/Shiva was worshiped more prevalently in the south and way north but didn’t know about the rapidly growing era of Vishnu worship.
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It made sense to me when I thought about it, because it’s just human nature to look for new religions/Gods. So of course there would have been a lot of variations of Hinduism that hated each other.
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That’s news to me about Shiva worship being more prevalent to me in the south. Didn’t know!!! Everyone around me in my family was a Shiva worshipper in the north…
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Okay, Semba cracks me up!
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Vandiyadevan is officially a horse girl, so of course, he has the horse with the most personality!
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I swear Devaran Attam is such a haunting song that it kinda blows your mind just with all of its layers and just the cinematography and choreography
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When I watched PS 2 with a friend recently, we got into an armor debate. Is it better to wear metal armor in the super heavy immoveable way it would be in this era, or leather army so you can still move but can also be pierced? I vote, still able to move and wear leather.
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Combine them. Metal chest plate with leather everywhere else? Similar to the bullet proof vests worn today.
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All the men in this movie have such great hair!
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It was a Golden Age of hair along with everything else! Also, wait until you see Trisha’s Power Hair.
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And women too!! Great hairstylists and products in the 10th century!
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The Aish versus Trisha hair choices are SUCH a strong part of who their characters are.
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And accurate to the famous book illustrations as well! The research for this movie was insanely detailed, which makes it so much fun
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Y’all ready for some complicated inheritance backstory????? I think I got it from reading the book. Old king didn’t have kids so made his younger brother crown prince. Old king retired to a temple and younger brother became king and made his son crown prince. Then, SURPRISE, Old King has a late in life baby. Everyone agrees it doesn’t make sense to change the established inheritance line because of this baby, baby is raised in the temple and intended to be a wise holy man. BUT NOW, baby is grown up and is all “hey, I want my kingdom”. And these chieftains are meeting in secret to argue that baby should be made Crown Prince before Current King dies, instead of Vikram the current Crown Prince. Also, they don’t like Vikram.
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Nambi is such a great comic character and foil for Vandiyadevan!
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This is clearly setting up to show that the women are the brains and strategy, right? I.e. the saying “the men may act as the head but the women are the neck and can turn the head any way she pleases”
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Oh yes! Yes yes yes!!!! It’s all Trisha versus Aish, with their various men acting for them. I love Trisha.
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Apparently, Kalki was inspired by the Three Musketeers for the three men characters in the book (Vandiyadevan, Arunmozhi, Aditha) and seeing how this film handles them, you can definitely feel the influence of Dumas for this story with its plots on plots and interesting side characters
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Still patiently waiting for Rahman to release the OST Background Music for both PS films because I NEED to listen to so many of them on repeat…he promised when PS 2 hit 100 days, so I am counting on his word, because the people (on Twitter) demand it
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They cut the part of this scene that I found most interesting from the book. The big cheiftain argument related to colonialism. The current royal family wants to take the grain stores from home and send them overseas to Lanka to help the army there and pay back the people for the devastation of the war. The chieftains feel like the grain stores should only be used for people on the mainland, not for the far reaches of the empire. The Treasurer of the Empire is the one leading the rebellion and makes all his arguments based on how the treasury should be used, at home or abroad.
I see why they cut it from the movie, because boring to watch! But really interesting basis for the rebellion, I think.
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that is fascinating!
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BEST INTRO EVER FOR AISH!! Just WOW!
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OMG Aish intro!!! I LOVE when Ratam directs Aish!
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I was just talking about this last week when we watched Jeans! She doesn’t have the same unworldly beauty she had when she was young, but she has so much more presence and confidence onscreen now!
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Here, late but happy! Hi everyone!
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Hi! Let me know if you need a summary of where we are so far in the film!
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Thank you! I’ve watched it already so hopefully I’ll be fine!
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Hi hi! So glad you could join!
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Okay, flower seller, in the books he turns out to be a Secret Prince. Which they cut from the movie entirely, but kept his character as a really nice sweet flower seller who helps our hero. It’s a little strange that the character is still there but his biggest character moment is missing.
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TBH, I am glad they had him since cutting him would maybe mean cutting Poonguzhali, one of the most popular female characters in the books period
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Okay, so this is Aish’s husband’s little brother. Her husband is the Treasurer and super powerful and leading the rebellion. The Little Brother is the head of security for the royal fort. He’s just trying to do his dang job, and also be loyal to big bro. The rebellion is still loyal to the current king, they just want to swap around who the heir is after the very ill king dies. So he is sincerely trying to keep the royal fort secure, while also keep messages from the King’s sons from reaching him.
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Oh, the other thing in the book that comes up in the Chieftain convo! The king “listens too much to women”. He keeps his wife and daughter in the royal chamber and asks their advice on everything. Which is a fun little opposite feminist message. If the Bad People are against women in power, therefore the Good PEople must be for it. Plus, you’ve got the Queen and Princess publicly giving advice and being respected, versus Aish working in secret with flirtations and beauty and sex. It’s all female power in different ways.
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Yea, the Three Musketeers’ influence is so strong at these running parts. Vandiyadevan is so d’Artagnan coded in this!
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This scene was very reminiscent of Disney’s Alladin!
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If he meets Trisha at the end of this scene, I am going to say Alladin was totally the inspiration!
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He doesn’t! But he does meet someone…
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So much spilled rice! There’s gonna be a rice shortage after this chase.
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That shot of Aish lying down is just straight from a Ravi Varma painting. Just the way Aish is shot and the music is just so good. Hard not to fall for her
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This bit is actually book accurate. He goes running away while being takent hrough the streets. And then we get this little detour into talking about ancient Chola architecture.
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Ok, that seals it. Kalki might have had inspiration from Dumas, but his writing detours on architecture definitely categorize him as the Indian Victor Hugo just so that he can put his research in his work
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Wow okay. He meets Aish. She is mesmerizing!
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One of her best roles ever! She is just so great in every scene she is in. I swear she should do more Tamil films
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Love Aish’s whole look, hair loose, soft flowing clothes, very natural wild feminine. Also love that we don’t even see our hero think about his lies, they just flow out without effort.
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It is completely believable. I wish Aish in real life would style her hair like this or in any other way besides the middle part straight style she usually dons. It does not do her any justice!
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Her just having curls irl is such a beautiful change she needs to get away from straighteners asap
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AGREED!
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Another time I would like a map! Apparently these tunnels go everywhere in the whole fort/city, somehow.
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In the first meeting between Aish and her husband in the book, we learn that they still haven’t had sex. It’s been two years, but she keeps saying it’s an inauspicious time, she needs to fast, blah blah blah. Another way she keeps such strong control of him.
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To be honest, in the book she is also super young, so not just controlling, but protecting herself. She is the most victim femme fatale there is
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In the book, Aish’s husband is so old, and she is something like 20 or 19, so he is bad in so many ways in the book, and she is a victim in so many ways in it.
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That’s the one thing I wish they hadn’t cast Aish for this role. You miss that “whoa, you are TOO YOUNG for this dude” reaction that everyone in the book always has when first seeing her.
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Yea, but then you have the acting experience vs. heavy role, so for a movie, I don’t mind, but if they ever do a PS tv series, then I hope the age is kept young
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