Monday Morning Questions Post: Badrinath Week Edition!

Is the rest of the world as excited about Badrinath as our little blog community is?  I know Karan’s been tweeting like crazy and all that, but Humpty Sharma wasn’t actually THAT successful.  Anyway, I know I am excited at least!  And that several of the rest of you are too.  And here is where you can ask me anything related to Badrinath, or anything else, as we enter the homestretch before release.

As always, you can ask me something personal (“how many times have you seen Humpty Sharma?”) or specific about the films (“what exactly is Humpty Sharma and how is it related to Badrinath Ki Dulhania?”) or a general discussion question (“why are we all so excited about Badrinath, and why aren’t more people?”)

 

The only rule is, you have to let me answer first!  Otherwise it is no fun for me 🙂  But once I have posted my response, feel free to leap in and add anything you want to someone else’s question.

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27 thoughts on “Monday Morning Questions Post: Badrinath Week Edition!

    • I think you already asked this same question on a different post? In case you didn’t seem my reply, this is what I said:

      “I don’t dislike Hollywood, I just prefer Indian film. Tastes vary of course, but I respond more to emotions and relationships in films than to logic and plot. And in general, Hindi cinema tends to be stronger in those areas than American. What bothers me is when people feel the reverse and assume that is an objective measure of quality, not just taste. In the same way that reading romance novels is denigrated, or watching soap opera style TV shows. I get bothered when writers in the West, or even some writers who specialize in Indian film, come at it with an assumption that it is somehow “less than” American film just because the actors show emotions and there are songs and a love story in almost every film.”

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  1. Why are you excited about Badrinath but not about Logan? Logan is Hugh Jackman’s last movie as Wolverine. It is super awesome.

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  2. I will have to agree with Margaret and moviemavengal. My interest in Indian film has expanded my enjoyment of movies, not restricted them in any way. (Other than time, of course! Now I have a reason to be more selective, because life’s too short for bad movies.)

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  3. Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham was on television yesterday. I flipped it on and decided that I would watch up until Shahrukh and Kajol’s first meeting. I got sucked in and, three plus hours later, I had watched the whole thing. It always draws me in because there are so many songs! It’s ridiculous and amazing! The only similar films, that I can think of, are Hum Aapke Hain Koun and maybe Dil to Pagal Hai. Are there any other Hindi films that seem to have a song every ten or fifteen minutes? DDLJ and KKHH have the perfect song-to-story balance, in my opinion, but sometimes it’s really fun to watch song after song after song!

    (Note to self: order some of those song compilation dvds)

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    • Anything Rajshri always has a bunch of songs. The poor clothing choices may have distracted you, but HSSH is pretty tuneful as well.

      It’s kind of an old-fashioned thing. If you watch the 1950s classics especially, they have songs thrown in constantly, and not in like “song sequence” kind of ways, but just someone walking down the street singing part of their dialogue. 12 songs a film used to be the norm, and then it dropped to 8, and now it is down to 5, and sometimes only 3.

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      • I somehow forgot HSSH- that did have quite a few songs. I haven’t watched Maine Pyar Kiya yet. I should probably get on that before Netflix yanks it!

        Do you like the way things are now or do you wish that contemporary Hindi films had a few more songs and more elaborate choreography? I’ve never finished a film and thought, “wow, that had too many songs” but I’ve certainly longed for more. I think that’s the reason I enjoy the 90s movies so much.

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        • For my personal taste, I like more songs.

          But setting aside my personal taste, I like whatever is best for the film. It bothers me now with films like Running Shaadi that were just crying out for more straight-up song sequences, and they weren’t included because it’s not “modern” to do it. But I can also see how films like Deewar really didn’t need any songs at all. And how Agneepath or Guru had just about the perfect number of songs, even though it was only a few.

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      • Apparently Jagga Jasoos is supposed to have a total of 29 songs. I wonder if there will be a bunch of bit songs that are like a minute a piece, or just 15 songs and a bunch of remixes of the originals.

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        • Oh man, that makes me even less eager to see it! 29 songs sounds like they are definitely going for some kind of twee aesthetic instead of just putting in songs where they would feel natural.

          On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:06 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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          • Yeah, I’m not as interested in Jagga Jasoos anymore either. I have a really bad feeling about this movie. The latest reports say that it’s going to release in July now. Ranbir Kapoor got kind of chubby for the Dutt biopic but they are still not finished with the shooting of Jagga Jasoos. I don’t understand how the continuity will work out now.

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          • Worst case scenario, they just use even more CGI on top of the CGI they are already using.

            On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:28 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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  4. What do you think of these comparisons of previous generation actors to the next generation?

    Aamir, Salman, and Sharukh = Ranbir, Varun, and Ranveer
    – I can find similarities between all three of them to any of the Khans so I am just going to say that Ranbir, Varun and Ranveer are going to be the top three stars. For example, Ranveer seems like both Aamir and Shahrukh while Varun seems like both Salman and Shahrukh.

    Hrithik Roshan = Tiger Shroff
    – Tiger seems like such a Hrithik wannabee and they’re both really really good dancers. Tiger hasn’t really proved to be a good actor but it seems like he’s garnering a mass following with his action movies.

    John Abraham = Sidharth Malhotra
    – Both are pretty former models that can’t really act. I think both can succeed in non-solo movies like Kapoor and Sons and Desi Boyz.

    Shahid Kapoor = Sushant Singh Rajput
    – Both are good actors. In the interviews I’ve seen, they’ve both given off similar vibes. Plus, I have a gut feeling that Sushant will never really become a star.

    Rani Mukherjee = Parineeti Chopra
    – I don’t know, Parineeti just reminds me of Rani.

    Kareena Kapoor = Alia Bhatt
    – I think this may have to do with Alia wanting a Kareena-wala designer lehenga in HSKD 🙂

    Ajay Devgn = Arjun Kapoor
    – I think because both have mostly done action movies.

    Saif Ali Khan = Aditya Roy Kapur
    – Both of them started in supporting roles, until they graduated to lead roles. But Aditya Roy Kapur hasn’t really had a hit after Aashiqui 2.

    Akshay Kumar = Ayushmann Khurrana ?
    – Akshay is a really tough one to figure out, maybe Ayushmann if you compare the types of movies that he’s doing now?

    Abhishek Bachchan = Ayushmann Khurrana ?
    – I think Ayushmann Khurrana fits better with Abhishek but Abhishek is like Akshay. They’ve both had such unique careers in my opinion.

    Preity Zinta = Anushka Sharma
    – I don’t know, Anushka’s choice of roles just reminds me of Preity.

    So have I forgot anyone? Would your list be similar to mine or completely different 🙂

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    • This is BRILLIANT! Agree completely with the first 6. Especially how the 3 Khans don’t really line up with Ranbir, Ranveer, Varun, but somehow added together they make a whole. You know? If you put SRK, Salman, and Aamir in a blender, and then you put Ranbir, Ranveer, and Varun in another blender, and then drank the movie star milkshake, it would taste the same once all the components were mixed together.

      Hrithik and Tiger, definitely. Although it remains to be seen if Tiger turns out to have the acting ability Hrithik turned out to have around film 6.

      John Abraham and Siddharth, ABSOLUTELY!!! Although Siddharth doesn’t seem to have the comic timing that John can pull out sometimes. Alternatively, if he is lucky, Sidharth could turn into Arjun Rampal instead. Very handsome, very lowkey acting style, but aged into a really good actor and a solid actor in a multi-starrer.

      Shahid and Sushant, that is fascinating! I really agree with it, but while Shahid seems to have landed in this place of thoughtful acting and careful preparation kind of in desperation, Sushant seems to have planned this kind of career all along.

      Rani and Parineeti and Kareena and Alia, I agree, and I also wonder if that might be because they were molded by the same people? Alia in Student of the Year is so similar to Kareena in K3G. And Karan’s mentorship of Alia seems so similar to his relationship with Kareena. And then with Rani and Parineeti, they were both such “house heroines” on the Yash Raj lot. Maybe Adi has a particular kind of heroine that he is partial to in a particular kind of role?

      Now, the remaining 5, I like them, but they don’t feel quite as perfect. Although I don’t know of I could do any better either! I can see the similarities between Ajay and Arjun mostly because they both has this kind of darkness in them, even in “happy” movies. Ajay in Hum Dil and Arjun in 2 States, for instance, feel very similar. Nice peaceful loving guys, but with this great sadness inside of them.

      Saif and Aditya, hmm, I don’t know. For me Saif is so defined as this light-weight romantic hero who had a sudden turn towards serious leading man and actors-actor. I can see Aditya as young Saif maybe, but not necessarily as old Saif. Ranveer even is kind of more similar, light and silly in his early roles and then turning serious.

      I think Abhishek and Ayushmann fit a little better. A strong start, and then sort of drifting into small roles. While still always bringing their own special touch to the performances.

      I can see Preity and Anushka, they both are such strong women. I might also be able to see Priety and Deepika, they are both good at playing sort of tough characters who are hiding soft hearts.

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      • That’s exactly what I was trying to say about Ranbir, Varun, and Ranveer! The way you put the point across makes a lot more sense though 🙂

        From what I’ve seen, Tiger seems like a hard worker and he’s really humble. I remember reading an interview of his before the release of Bhaagi and he mentioned that he wants to be established commercially and build a fan base before he tries any experiments. I didn’t really understand the logic because he could get typecast, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see if he’s as good actor as Hrithik.

        I think that Sidharth has zero acting ability but I do think he has good sensibilities and script-sense. I wouldn’t be surprised if he turns producer like John or directs for Dharma in the future. I think he could make some nice movies if he moves behind the camera.

        I think you may be right about the YRF/Dharma influence on Parineeti and Alia. I’m really interested in how Meri Pyaari Bindu is going to turn out to be. This will be Parineeti’s first screen appearance since 2014 barring Dishoom. Plus I like both Ayushmann Khurrana and Parineeti 🙂

        Yeah, the comparison’s got tougher after this point. Regarding Saif and Aditya Roy Kapur. I was thinking about the Hum Tum and Salaam Namaste version of Saif when I thought of Aditya. Also, I can see both Preity and Deepika matching up.

        Wait, who would Imran Khan be in this situation?!? Maybe someone like Akshaye Khanna?

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        • mmmm, Akshaye was too different right from the beginning. It took him a while to hit it big, but he was always different. Imran just feels like one of a dozen other chocolate heroes. Maybe Shahrukh. Not Shahrukh now, but Shahrukh then, when he was just another pretty face and no one was really sure what was going to happen with him.

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  5. Do you know why Nikhil Advani never worked with Karan Johar after Kal Ho Naa Ho?

    Also, are you following the Kangana and Karan fued that is starting to develop?

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    • In Karan’s autobiography, he talks about how difficult the Kal Ho Na Ho shoot was. He was good friends with Nikhil, Nikhil had actually been in the industry longer than him, was an experienced AD on DDLJ and helped Karan learn how to use a view finder and so on.

      When it came time to make Kal Ho Na Ho, he wrote the script and pictured the whole film in his head, but then somehow thought it would be wrong as a producer to go on writing and directing all his own stuff. So he decided to give it to Nikhil to direct. And he almost immediately regretted it, but by then it had been announced, and Nikhil was excited, and Nikhil’s mother even came to see him and tell him how proud she was that her boy got to direct this big big movie.

      But he says he never should have let it happen, it was worse to just go ahead that way. He had to be on set as the producer and writer, but he was miserable and stressed the whole time because he felt like it should be him directing, and it affected Nikhil, and wasn’t fair to either of them. Basically, it sounds like he was kind of “backseat directing”, and he couldn’t stop himself. He is very fair (as he is to everyone in his bio), and doesn’t blame Nikhil, blames himself most of all for not taking the film back and causing a momentary hurt instead of this months long confusion, but I assume it was this messy situation which lead them not to feel like they could work together again. Also, I think that was the last time Karan let someone else direct something he wrote. In fact, I think ever since then he has had his directors write their own scripts. So it sounds like it was a learning experience for him as a manager-mentor as to what works for his administrative style.

      And yes I am following the Karan-Kangana thing! I wrote a post already, it will go up today unless I manage to finish my Tuesday Tamil in time. It may turn into a Thursday Tamil, and Tuesday gossip. Would you mind?

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      • That’s a really interesting story! I’m sure that’s why Kal Ho Naa Ho seems so much like a Karan Johar movie instead of just a Dharma movie. I’m sure Nikhil Advani also wanted to distance himself from Karan after everyone said that Kal Ho Naa Ho was just like a Karan movie. It’s still sad that they never worked together again, even if it’s Nikhil’s own script.

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        • It sounds like they never had a real blow-out about anything, it was just increasing tension over the film. So maybe sometime in the future they’ll be able to talk it out and get back togeter.

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  6. How do you feel about the trend of remixing old hit songs? I didn’t think it was too much of a big deal, but that’s probably because I haven’t heard many of the remixed songs before. I’m sure I would be upset if a song like Chaiyya Chaiyya or You Are My Soniya got remixed.

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    • I don’t mind the remixes themselves, but it is kind of a bad sign for the originality of the music industry. That they can’t seem to come up with catchy songs all on their own. Plus, it’s a bad sign for the ability of a film to sell itself, that the song promos have to work on the nostalgia of the audience in order to sell the film, instead of letting it work on its own merits.

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