An afternoon watchalong! Radical! And Dil To Pagal Hai, a movie I find dull, but SRK is charming and the songs are okay, so I will survive.
Dil To Pagal Hai
It’s on Prime, and available for rent at all the places. My second least favorite Madhuri-SRK collaberation (Koyla, Anjaam, Gaja Gamini, Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam, Dil To Pagal Hai, Devdas), but undeniably a hit and important in the great Shahrukh Khan story.
At 4pm Chicago time, I will put up an “And PLAY!” comment and then we will all comment along from there.
dontcallitbollywood 
Madhuri should not have had a spandex overall… mre like the dancers behind her would have been better for her
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That was a really cute “Now I know I am in love” moment though. It’s not her dancing or being beautiful or any of that. It’s her being silly and goofy and also showing how much she remembers of what he says to her.
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Even the black lehenga choli, which is mostly a pretty successful look, seems like it doesn’t quite fit Madhuri (small across the shoulders in the front, I think).
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I had a mad desire to watch the movie a second time because I wanted to watch both sets of them and couldn’t do it side by side as a kid!
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So Margaret you see saying that they were showcasing a new choreographer? Did he have much success after this? I wonder because I don’t think he is very good….
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It is the first time there was any kind of jazz type, non kathak dance in Hindi movies at this scale. It was a game changer.
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I like the sequences that are in the weird RK-style dreamscape with the rocks. But the rest. . .
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He did a lot of other stuff, he’s still working regular. Does a lot of the choroegraphy for the big televised award show type stuff. Oh, and he discovered Shahid Kapoor! Shahid won an open audition with his troupe.
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I think Hrithik learned his dance in Shiamak Davar school too?
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Weird connection, I know someone who went to Bombay Scottish a few years after Hrithik, and they did have Shiamak’s group come in for their dance classes.
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I mean the kid song is one of my all time favorites, it is just all these other big numbers are somewhat flat.
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Ah, really interesting double screen! It’s them being cute and living together, and then their dream selves being romantic. Goes along with that “I am in love” realization moment. what he loves most is the goofy collaberative times with her, and even when they fight, there is that undertone of romance.
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Yes Madhuri is shy to do the pout for the lipstick lol
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Do you think he was spinning a duplicate or someone else when he had her lifted? Didn’t seem like Madhuri to me
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Not sure, if it wasn’t Madhuri I would think they had to use a trained dancer for safety for that move. But it’s Madhuri, she could do it.
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Unfortunately, with anything around me reminding me of a strain of some song or other, I am uncle.
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WAIT! Is SRK wearing plaid pants!?
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Exactly!!!
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The costumer and I are NOT friends!
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Khandala where they are going is sort a chilly hill station… so it makes sense but not alongside women’s clothes
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Maybe it was supposed to indicate that he ran from bed straight up her place as he realized he can’t spend the day without her. Hence he’s in pajamas
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Addressing the dogs in “aap” XD
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ARUNA! I love this bit.
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Fat shaming…
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Wait, is this a dancing school that is residential or an orphanage or what? I am so confused.
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Supposedly residential dance school – piece of YRF fiction!
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I guess I have known a good number of musicians who went to live in their teachers’ households while studying, but not en masse like this ( ;
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I had always imagined it was a boarding school situation? But I suppose in that case the kids would be shown wearing uniforms.
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So why is there a kid’s pool of water in the middle of the yard?
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Because it’s a dance school/orphanage or something?
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Where they eat a lot of corn flakes, which they store on top of the fridge, just like MY FAMILY.
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Do you also have eggs in an open carton up there?
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Common in India!
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No in the U.S. we have to refridgerate our eggs because of how they clean them before they get to the store. BUT if I had my own chickens I would totally keep eggs on top of the fridge.
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On the ranch we always had ours in a big basket on the counter. If we had set them on the fridge, neither my mom nor I would have been able to reach them!
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The gas stove is not on whle cooking!
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How to get a matronly woman to fall in love with you, be nice to kids….
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Okay, SRK is really irrisistable when he is goofing with kids with a half open shirt.
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You had me at SRK is irresistible. 😀
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Truthfully, it looked fake to me. The kids were a prop, they looked like a prop. He was mostly ignoring them and paying attention to her, which is many a female fantasy.
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Fat shaming + Corporal Punishment – great dance teacher… also so common for India
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Pyar bohut baar ho jaata hai, mohabbat ek baar hoti hai – I could never get what this means….
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Is Mohabbat, like, more passionate? You can love many people but only be crazy passionate once?
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Nobody explained it to me, need to google I guess.
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Maybe goes back to the prologue where they are arguing specifically about “mohabbat”? Like “mohabbat” is a special type or level of “pyaar”?
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Found something. Very interesting. Answer to What is the difference between “Pyaar”, “Ishq” and “Mohabbat”? by Abeeha Farooqi
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Pyaar-Ishq-and-Mohabbat/answer/Abeeha-Farooqi?ch=15&oid=88116116&share=5673d48e&srid=hEq7M&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Pyaar-Ishq-and-Mohabbat/answer/Abeeha-Farooqi?ch=15&oid=88116116&share=5673d48e&srid=hEq7M&target_type=answer
Mohabbat isn’t that special… Only the second stage of love!
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Ganpati – the obstacle-removing God.
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Ganpatis all around!
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I’ve always thought green was Madhuri’s color, though perhaps a little less pea green.
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What do you think of the white outfit? Why would you wear white if you are not the bride???!!
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Because you are Madhuri in DTPH and you always wore boring colors!
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Except in dholna
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I thought red was the traditional Indian marriage color?
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Yeah, but this is a Christian wedding so it’s white. Maybe Madhuri didn’t know it was gonna be Christian somehow and showed up and felt super embarrassed and Shahrukh made her feel better and now it is 3 hours later?
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Okay, but at least what she was wearing was very Indian, so I would think that in India she would get a pass.
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Well if you aren’t the one getting married then better not be wearing bridal color next to the bride generally
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the flowers are starting to wilt. They must have been filming this for a while.
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Shd have used fake… more photogenic. Although fake ones in India are VERY fake
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Or they stole them from a wedding that had happened the day before.
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Am here! Super late, pretty sleepy, but kinda ready to watch! Will probably bullet-point everything 😄
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Youa re just in time for aur paas! SRK’s giving a speech at a wedding
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Omg I love that scene.
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Hi, Lisa!
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Welcome!!!
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This car changed the style of flowers being put after weddings on cars in India. Sticking one by one instead of long flower strings
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Really? I hate it! Looks like the car has pimples.
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Yes… But Bollywood sets culture and values in India and fashion
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I think most flattering Madhuri outfit so far?
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SRK said in an interview that if a guy says aur paas aur paas to you kick him in the shins or something lol
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LMAO. Arm’s length only!
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Yes he was making the point of how romance is nothing like this
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And I guess also talking about the advice he was giving suhana about boys
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I admit to thinking his original fantasy of when he saw Madhuri immitating him was much sexier.
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Madhuri fighting her sexual desires and wanting to maintain her virginal attitude is kinda fun to watch.
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Or I am engaged to someone else atttitude
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BUT still wanting it! It is her internal fight, she is good at showing the internal fight.
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yes!!
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I really like the little clicking percussion instruments in the background of this song.
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I love this song! ANd the choreo!!!
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Love that this song is sexy and also joyful, like a celebration of speaking their desires. And it was more personal and chemistry and everything than the other songs. Woo Farah!
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It feels very light, unlabored.
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Red and pink outfits… so good…
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Pink Sari! And deep green
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Really love the music in the Aur Paas scene esp when they start hugging
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Dholna!!!
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And back to all of the complications of reality. . .
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Like how the dressing style at the wedding and Aur Paas slightly follows in Dholna in different colours 😄
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Aw, now it’s *sad* backwards-chair-sitting.
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This song is reminding me that SRK and Madhuri actually have great song chemistry a lot of times. It’s all about her dancing and him admiring. Anjaam, Koyla, Devdas, that’s what works. them doing a dance off type side by side thing is just not right.
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Yes. And this is also reminding me of the whole debate of did they have sex or not while dholna was showing to us 😀
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YES! That is also what I was thinking about! Because their characters are definitely in a “everything is different now” place, but could that just be a kiss and a hug?
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Yeah it’s 90s India, it could just be first base make out 😛
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I like that they had the whole song in the length of a single hug, and then went back to the hug.
Also, because of they typing I miss a bunch of subtitles, so does SRK know she is engaged to someone else?
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Yep! But I think he also knows it isn’t “official” with a date chosen and stuff.
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Yes he knows
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Listening to Lataji being the playback singer here and remembering how having her be a Yash Chopra heroine’s playback singer was such a big deal back in the 90s I think.
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I gotta say, SRK’s possessiveness is NOT sexy here.
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what possessiveness?
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If you’re where you think we are, it’s a bit of a fake-out, right? The part that turns out to be the rehearsal?
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“If you are where *I* think we are”–sorry!
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Yes…
I didn’t interpret it as possessiveness but trying to get a rise out of her as she is completely stonewalling him.
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Yes.
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This is like this whole thing of a “Good traditional indian girl / woman” doesn’t say yes. Puke.
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And I think that’s the possessiveness Genevieve was picking up on! He’s all “I know what you feel more than you do”
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Ah in the Indian context, it is trying to show an Indian woman you are invested… otherwise we are trained to ignore, block, stonewall, grey rock etc.
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I can enjoy the movies, but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever completely understand the culture.
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It’s why I explain ❤️😃
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It’s really tragic to me that Karisma, who has been so upstanding through (almost) all of this and clear and honest with everybody, thinks she isn’t an “achhi lardki.”
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And the whole concept of “good girl”. Like she could just leave and put space in the friendship. Self preservation = vamp. Self sacrifice = good girl
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Oooo! And that’s the added thing withthe lake scene. She TRIED to preserve herself, she left for a long time, then came back and when she was upset went off by herself. It was SRK who chased her down, not because he loved her but because he was her friend and could tell she was hurting. Total flip of the usual way the third leg of the triangle just disappears.
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Yes. Another thing I realized how he made time to look after her and listen to her. And yet later when Madhuri is trying to get his attention, he’s completely not getting it. Busy in putting up the show. Already taking that relationship for granted?
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Ok this is probably because I had watched KKHH first and then DPTH decades later but I was so reminded of Kajol running to the forest after gazebo dance here that I almost expected her to confess her feelings against a tree.
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Poor sad Karisma and her rock-chucking ) :
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She does really well in the scene. It is intense and emotional, and she is believable.
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It’s definitely my favorite scene. I’m SO upset for her at the beginning but in that short scene it comes around to a place of catharsis. (Although I’m still a *little* upset on her sake, LOL.)
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Ohhhh this scene!! The “tell me you don’t love me!” scene.
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Also has a palat reference 💞
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I thought Karisma realized he didn’t lover her before she left. Not that she wouldn’t be upset after watching that scene as well.
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I guess it’s realizing he didn’t love her and maybe never would, and then coming back to realize he was fully in love the way she wanted him to be but with someone else.
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Yes this. IT IS PAINFUL.
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What do you think of SRK’s expression when she says she found out he loves someone else? Surprise but not at the fact that she can see it? (Karisma)
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Yeah
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Okay, love the end of Karisma’s speech. It’s not that she is upset and surprised to see him in love with someone else, it is that she is upset at herself for not being able to be happy for her friend. Such a good person!
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Yes!! The best of them all
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Karisma’s character was radical in Indian Cinema at the time.. how it is written and how open she is
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