I know you aren’t done! I know you have more to say. And rather than picking through the Scene By Scenes trying to find the right place for these Big Discussions, I am giving us designated places to talk about it all. (full index of JHMS coverage here)
I’ll start the conversation off with my feelings about Sejal. Which aren’t necessarily right, or wrong, they are just what I think. And you can put in the comments what you think keeping in mind, again, that you aren’t necessarily right or wrong either, the film is purposefully open to interpretation and multiple options.
A couple of days ago in the discussion in the comments, I stumbled on the exact phrase to describe my feelings about Sejal. She is still in her “factory settings” stage. Her environment, her family, everything in her whole life up until now has tried to make her a certain way. She has never had the opportunity to find out what she wants to be outside of that, if she can be anything outside of that.
And so, yes, she is rude and demanding and spoiled. But I can forgive her for that in the same way I can forgive the 12 year old in my Sunday School class whose parents are going through a divorce, or the 4 year old I recently spent the day with who has no sense of limitations because she has a serious health issue and her mother indulges her. They are merely reflections of how they were raised, I can’t expect them to be anything different than what they are.
Sejal, on the outside, is a grown woman not a child. She should be able to take responsibility for her actions and decisions. But as I see her through out the film, she has never had the opportunity to grow up, to experience things in the world outside of the narrow environment where she has been kept. How can we expect her to be any better than what she was made to be, if she has never had a chance before?
And the thing is, now that she has that chance, she is grabbing it with both hands. It may be irritating for Harry to put up with her questions and her adventures, but this is what she has to do to grow up. Growing up, changing your worldview and yourself, it’s a messy process. It’s not something that can be done overnight (despite how most films show it). And there is some back and forth in it too. One moment she can have a flash of insight, of empathy, and the next she can go back to being that person she was for the first 24-26 years of her life.
So yes, I find her legitimately irritating, as does Harry. But, like Harry, I also pity her. And I respect her bravery in attempting this messy journey towards being a better person.
Most of all, I can’t find it within myself to blame her for most of what she does. In the same way I can’t find it within myself to blame the children in my Sunday School class for being products of their background, but also in the same way I can’t find it within myself to blame Harry for anything he does. This film isn’t asking us to love everything the characters do, but it is asking us to understand and forgive them.
I felt from the very first time I saw the film that the story was more about Sejal than Harry. (Though, of course, it is about both.) Shah Rukh does an amazing job as Harry, but now I am wondering if someone with less star power (or less — ahem — distracting) would have made her story stand out more. I am so grateful that Imtiaz didn’t make her a manic pixie girl — she is so real, and Anushka plays her so well!
Speaking for myself, I found Jab Harry Met Sejal — or perhaps Jab Sejal Met Harry — was the perfect mature chick flick. Not a puff-pastry romance, but a real woman-centered movie that isn’t about “women’s issues” or being saved by Mr. Right, but about growing into herself, under her own power. With a little help from the sexiest man on the planet.
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My turn to say Amen! 🙂
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Hi, hi 🙂
I agree with Sejal being more the focus than Harry – who sometimes is more a kind of catalyst or teacher or crutch or…well…in any way…almost a learning woman’s dream 😉
That’s why I prefer the title the wy he is because, yes, it’s Harry who meets Sejal…she chose him as HE wasn’t new to her (the other way round it was obvious that he had no idea with whom he would have to deal 😉
Sejal, the wave…Sejal on the move – up and down… Sejal curious of life – going high, going smoothly…Sejal goal-focussed and straightforward…Sejal matter-of-factly and romantic…Sejal the lawyer and non-judgemental…oh oh oh…I LOVE this woman 🙂 (or the way Imtiaz gives her life)
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And part of that “adult” and “real” kind of female character is that sometimes she is allowed to be unlikable, to make mistakes. Not cute little clumsy mistakes, but real adult mistakes, the way a complicated male character is allowed to do.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:40 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:
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I understand Joyomama’s point that someone with less star power might have been better playing Harr~y but for me, ‘SRK’ so thoroughly disappeared in this film (as he did for me in both Raees and Dear Zindagi) that I never thought of him as anything other than some extremely hot guy I REALLY wished I could meet!
I give major kudos for that to his last three directors, because for a while now that hasn’t seemed possible.
Farah Khan, for example, just ‘fangirls’ and can’t seem to get beyond her personal desire to see him shirtless. Not that I didn’t love him in HNY!
Rohit Shetty, I don’t understand…as much as I loved Dilwale & Chennai Express, I didn’t think he got the best out of SRK the actor, perhaps because he is more used to dealing with lesser actors (like the junior hero and heroine) and is, in fact, more interested in the car chases than the story. That said, the scenes with SRK and Kajol were epic.
Imtiaz Ali and Rahul ‘whatever his last name is’ succeeded in doing that and I think both Raees and JHMS will end up in SRKs Top Whatever list (not Top 5 certainly but only because he has done so many extraordinary roles that there will more than likely have to be a Top 50 and people will spend decades arguing about the ranking of them all!
SRk’s performances in Fan I can’t even discuss because they are so beyond anything I’ve ever seen on film as to be (for me) too painful to watch again. Though I hated the story,
I know I’ve gotten off topic a bit (okay~a LOT!) but to get back to the point..I think that Sejal’s strength as a character (as well as Anushka’s acting ability) together with the strength of the story are a match for SRK in a way that the story in Dear Zindagi was not~even though Alia’s acting was. Does that make any sense? Jug was such a presence, such a phenomenon, such an icon that the story itself, as it was written and filmed, paled in comparison. Don’t get me wrong, it was good, just not good enough.
Anyway, circling back around…Imtiaz Ali created a hero and heroine who were so layered, so complex and broken~ yet so ultimately real and ultimately worthwhile and loveable~ that you just wanted both of them to get what they wanted. And, in some odd way, the story was as believable as they were; their match, in fact,
I loved the way the music fit both the situations and the characters–the background music during the Prague chase, for example, was unusual but cracked me up every time.
Sejal is a heroine who resonates with me far more than Geet because she is more than just a perky optimist. And, honestly, I loved Geet! Another aside: every time I watch Jab We Met (and it’s the only non-SRK BWood movie I watch regularly) I find myself thinking…this is such a cute movie, but it would have been way better if SRK had played Aditya.
So, thanks SO MUCH Margaret, for giving us this gift. We are all extremely grateful for your insights and your love for these characters and this story! And the opportunity to express our opinions has been invaluable. It’s made up for a lot of the lack of understanding and appreciation that JHMS has for some reason encountered and which has distressed us.
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Your Dear Zindagi point is perfect. And I think part of what made Sejal a better match is that she is less knowable. Alia did a great job with her character, but there was no mystery there, we knew everything by the end, the rough spots were sanded off. Whereas Shahrukh still had these big question marks for us (and his performance) to work with. And here, both characters have those question marks.
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That’s exactly what I felt about Dear Zindagi. SRK’s arrival just makes the rest of the movie recede. It becomes too flimsy to stand up and have equal presence against SRK’s almost blinding star power. The camera just loves him too much for us to now care about Alia and her all petty boyfriend issues and whatever else was going on.
It was like ‘why can’t we just see Jug’s life instead?’ The interest was diverted from whatever the main story was to wanting to know about his life and divorce and son and whatever he does when he’s not with Alia. What a disappointment it was every time the story shifted back to the other stuff.
That’s not to say SRK can’t do supporting roles but in Dear Zindagi, nothing else was engaging enough to withstand it. It might have worked better for the movie to have the role being played instead by Aamir Khan or Anil Kapoor or a similar older actor who doesn’t have as much charisma as SRK.
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I can relate to almost everything you wrote (not only about JabHarryMetSejal)…btw, for me, too, this blog is like a gift 🙂
Creating people that feel ‘real’ is already a talent but connecting with an actor/actors on a level where the art of work isn’t putting weight on the work that goes into the art…that is something I admire…Since years, I get the feeling that ShahRukh tries to fortify the talents others have…
I am happy that I am not the only one that perceive JabHarryMetSejal as Imtiaz’ most mature film (till date).
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I LOVE your whole JHMS analysis, love them to death 🙂 When I first saw the movie,I remember turning to my sister at the end and saying -This is SRK’s most romantic role for me, the character of Harry really resonates with me and the way he plays..well. I know exactly why this movie did not work in India,but that whole discussion of Indian masses not being ready for a complex slice-of-life mature romance is for another day 😀 Yes, I do agree Sejal is completely in her ‘factory settings’ and is tooo real. My 2 cents-
If you have seen many Hindi movies,you can probably categorize our ‘heroine’ characters in 3 blocks-
1- The typical village belle- A good representation is Simran from DDLJ. At heart, this is a simple,conservative, traditional girl, a ‘good’ girl, the one who won’t breathe without her strict parents’ permission. In a typical movie way,she will fall in love with a rebel/modern guy who will bring her out of her shell and she will somewhat rebel.
2-The extra enthusiastic, mildly or moderately intelligent babe- Like Geet from Jab We Met. She is fun, enthusiastic, funny, pretty, high on happy hormones, chirping around, singing, dancing, basically teaching everyone around her ‘how to live’ and bringing guys like Aditya out of their depression/failed love affairs.
3- The ultra modern 21st century ladies -These are found in movies like Neal & Nikki, Befikre. Not that I am trying to cast aspersions on anyone’s character or using ‘modern’ in a negative way, I am just pointing it out from a typical Indian movie-goer’s perspective. Clubbing, Drinking, Smoking, Sleeping around -these activities are usually frowned upon in our society when girls do it. So there is this whole category of characters who try to ‘rebel’ against the society by turning around the tables. Even ‘Tanu’ from ‘Tanu Weds Manu’ fits the bill here.
So most of Hindi movie actresses are one of these 3 categories. In Sejal, we see an amalgamation of some characteristics from each,which makes her so much more realistic for me, because I do know some girls who are just like her. She is modern, doesn’t mind drinking or clubbing but at the same time, is also traditional and conservative and will make sure that her families doesn’t know about it! She wants to keep their parents happy and will not mind marrying a guy of their choice because she truly believes they know best, but she has also grown up in a society that encourages her to be independent and she does dream of a fantasy love story of her own. She is educated, earns handsomely on her own yet she has strong emotional ties to her family and relatives and they seem to dominate her decisions. She can afford to live on her own but would continue living in a joint family surrounded by sisters and brothers and uncles and aunts because she has grown up feeding on their love, support as well as emotional manipulation and cannot break free now! She has bookish knowledge but has not really had time or opportunity to travel the world, go hiking or even take a weekend trip all alone, away from her family, hence no practical experience at all because for many reasons, even rich,educated families in India would not dream of letting their daughter go anywhere alone!
I think that keeping these social, economic and cultural reasons in mind, the character of Sejal was crafted really well and if you come down to a cosmopolitan Indian city like Mumbai, you will actually meet many such real life Sejals who are a bit childish, a bit optimistic, a bit upbeat, a bit suffocated, a bit immature, a bit independent, a bit confused, a bit this and a bit that 🙂
Geez, look at the length of this answer! Sorry.
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Long answers are great! And what you say makes complete sense to me.
To me, Sejal is closely related to Kajol in DDLJ. Both women were technically raised in the “modern” world, given all kinds of external freedoms, but they have internalized restrictions that are even more than some village girls might have. With Kajol in DDLJ, we see that, see how her father dominates the family, and it explains why she is so uncertain and cautious even when away from her family. But with Sejal, we have to intuit it, understand that despite all her external “freedoms”, she has never been really free.
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Oh, and I have a massive series of posts on DDLJ that make my JHMS coverage look superficial, if you are into that.
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Checking out right now 😀
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The “Scene by Scene Indexes” tab seems to be goofed up. Is there supposed to be a DDLJ index? And all the Jab Harry Met Sejal posts are posted separately. Or am I doing something wrong?
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They are the Indexes, plus the individual posts related to the Index. I need to figure out some way to break them out.
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Well, on twitter, two times, I posted just the link to your scene-by-scene indexes, Margaret…and yes, Decaf is right…
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Huh, I have no idea what is happening. I’ll check it out.
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No need to apologize! Your answer shed a lot of light on her character.
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If any of the commenters here are male, I would be very interested in their take on Sejal. (Leaving Harry for another thread). My reason is that so many of the female commenters seem to identify with Sejal, and that identification colors our interpretation of the movie.
Even as a non-Indian who came of age in the 1960s, I connected strongly with Sejal. I grew up in a small town, had led a pretty sheltered time, and my mother was very religious — a minister’s daughter. My first semester in college — living away from home, with a roommate who smoked, drank, and had been sleeping with her boyfriend since she was 15 — was my “growing up” journey. We ended up having a big fight at the end of the semester and I haven’t seen her in nearly 50 years. Yet there were times that one semester that we were very good friends. There were echoes of our relationship in Harry and Sejal’s journey, minus the sexual attraction. In a way, she made it possible for me to find my way to real love — I met my husband about the same time she and I had our falling out.
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I am curious as well. Because it feels like in many ways Harry, while a real 3 dimensional character, is also a bit of a fantasy. A perfect lover with a deep dark soul. Whereas Sejal is flawed and feels like someone who is just as good/bad as “I” am, not something perfect.
In many ways the reverse of the usual movie gender roles, with the ideal female character and the hero that anyone can relate to. One comparison I don’t think we have made yet is to Ae Dil Hai Mushkil. In which Anushka and Aishwarya’s characters were both real full interesting women, but at the same time it was Ranbir who was the one anyone could relate to.
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Yes! Imtiaz has beautifully flipped so many gendered romance and “coming of age” tropes in this movie. I’m not very much like either Sejal or Harry. And I don’t think I’d like either much in real life. I wouldn’t be able to get past Sejal’s blustering, and I’d just feel sick to my stomach with yearning around Harry.
Yet the movie takes us on this journey so that we’re pulling for both and we see how perfectly they fit together, when the growing and healing is done.
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Sejal irritated me a lot. Maybe I have seen too many real life Sejals. I had expected this when I first heard she is playing a Bombay Gujarati(my instinctive reaction was Groooooaaaaannn).
But Harry made her lovable. Seeing her through Harry’s eyes made me sympathise with her. I couldn’t help it, every reaction of mine imitated his. I literally know three girls who have given me that “I learnt French for three years” line. It used to INFURIATE ME. (Like, no you wont understand what Edith Piaf is singing just cause you learnt French for three years you dolt!) And so later when he felt bad for her when he felt protective to her and of course in that last fight when he was furious with her, I got what he was feeling. The entire movie for me was viewed from Harry’s viewpoint(of course he’s SRK so thats a big part of it too!). And its not just her that I sympathise with but I am beginning to sympathise with women like her. Maybe now I will forgive them what earlier to me seemed like unbearable excesses. Its gonna be very difficult but I will try 🙂
Thank you for your blog and your lovely posts and for tolerating my somewhat incensed/overly passionate comments 🙂
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See, this is part of the reason that Tamasha doesn’t work for me. Ranbir’s character reminded me too much of people I have known in real life (not in the specifics, but the 3rd generation immigrant experience is obviously super common in America, and usually goes something like what he went through, and I am SICK OF IT). A testament to Imtiaz’s abilities as a director I guess, he makes characters so real that it’s hard to remember they aren’t actually real people we know.
And passionate comments are so much better than no comments at all! Or supercilious comments making fun of all of us for loving this movie so much (thank goodness, JHMS is so far off the radar for people, we didn’t get any of those).
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:51 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:
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JHMS worked for me despite infuriating lil Sejal 🙂
I guess that is the difference between you and me. Tamasha was weird. See there are very few men like Ved. Very very few. Most of them do that average job, average joe life very well, so it was almost like Imtiaz had opened a new window to me. I never knew such men existed who could actually break out of that mold. Who could try something different. Who could actually be affected by the love of a good woman. I never knew someone like Tara would exist (outside of me of course, I hope that doesn’t come across as arrogant!). And there was something about the childhood sections of Ved’s life. That first song- Chali Kahani the very first time I watched it I was sobbing, there were so many references to my childhood, right from the dreaming in class, the working on class plays, the imagining of mythic characters, he even mentions Prithiviraj Chauhan, which I had never seen in movies, ever. After that first tug at my nostalgic heartstrings there was pretty much a huge leeway for Imtiaz to make any kind of film. that he made this film was just the icing on the cake.
I have to tell you I HATED Ranbir right from his first film and had seen just three films of his before Tamasha- Wake Up Sid (for Konkona), Bachna Ae Haseeno and YJHD (For Deepika)- in all three movies I thought he was so-so and the actresses outshone him. I hadn’t even watched Rockstar and walked into Tamasha for Deepika- I adore her. But I fell hopelessly in love with Ved and in effect Ranbir. I immediately came home and ordered the DVD of Rockstar. Then realized it was available on iTunes and bought it there as well. Sobbed through 89% of Rockstar- it was so beautiful and now am an avowed Ranbir fan. 10 years of hate changed by one movie. My sister cannot believe it at all. I even went and watched ADHM 5 times for him!! 😛
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“Or supercilious comments making fun of all of us for loving this movie so much ”
people do that? jesus! how ill-mannered and loathsome.
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I watched ADHM 5 times too! But for the film as a whole, not Ranbir. Although I think he did a great job in it, I just still don’t like him in general (ADHM scene by scene coverage here: https://dontcallitbollywood.com/2017/08/19/ae-dil-hai-mushkil-scene-by-scene-index/)
If you like men like Ved, come to America! Or don’t, it will ruin them for you. I know sooooooooooooooo many guys like that! It really is a very accurate depiction of the 3rd generation immigrant struggle. Good for Imtiaz to get it so well. Only in America, we are all dealing with the immigrant struggle, in one way or another, so it just feels like “get over yourself! I’ve got the exact same thing happening in my family/myself!” With incredibly different specifics of course, but still similar enough that I felt tired of it.
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Ved is an immigrant and a refugee in his own country. That is what makes the India -Pakistan experience very uniquely painful I think.
Oh I’ve dated Americans not to worry. One was the son of Cuban immigrants. Horrible stories, troubled person, beautiful soul.
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In addition to all your comments I’ve read this one may be the closest to my heart, p… what a really really great outcome of a movie when it makes change your own perceptions, your own behaviour to a way of more understanding (despite all your irritating experiences) and being less judgemental. Both, Sejal and Harry, show this (rather mature) trait from the beginning…it’s the one that makes changes in their behaviour, in their view of themselves, so quickly possible (I think).
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Thank you ❤️
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Just wrote a whole long thing and then switch off of the page to look something up and lost it. GRRR. So trying to recap. I think you are right that Sejal is more of a real person since we see that good and the bad much more clearly. Harry is idealized even though moody and complex. I think that Shah Rukh’s portrayal of that kind of man and himself as that kind of man has led us to this idealized version. I think the real man is probably more like the protagonist in “Who am I this Time? by Kurt Vonnegut. (great short story about a shy man who can only express himself through the words of others i.e. plays) Anyway, Sejal can be cruel or at least unthinking and she hurts him a number of times without noticing as real people sadly often do. She is more of a country belle inside than the city girl she was raised as. She is most herself dancing at Manky’s wedding. That flash to her being decked out for her formal engagement or wedding (I’m not sure I agree that its all in Harry’s mind, but even if it is) where she looks so “china doll” compared to herself at Manky’s tells us so much. Rather than marrying “below her station” as her parents probably said and as she was saying when she said, “I’m not the type of girl to run off with tour guide,” she is in fact FINDING her real station, her real place.Notice she said tour guide, not just another man. That’s the key thing that is wrong. If she dumped Rupen for a wealthy NRI the parents would have “understood.”
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Yes, the happiness at Mayank’s wedding, that’s why I can picture them living in a small town together. Not like a small-small town, but they also don’t need somewhere with worldclass dining and fine art museums and so on. Sure, for a weekend away once a month that would be great. But for everyday life, a place where they can just be themselves is what they want. I know what that place would be in America, somewhere like Columbus Ohio or Indianapolis or Milwaukee, it’s not a major city but it is a nice place to live and there are plenty of opportunities to build a life. There must be places like that in India, places that aren’t Hyderabad or Calcutta or Madras or Delhi, but still are big enough for a female lawyer to find work.
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Thank you for these extra open posts! I think the only place I differ from you, Margaret, and some of the commenters here in the way I see Sejal, is that I see her as more sensual/sexual a bit earlier in the movie. I don’t see her as a complete naive innocent, but more as someone who understands sex and sexual relationships only in the abstract. She has probably repressed any urges to explore her sexuality up until the trip to Europe, and hasn’t missed it, because, as you say, she’s very busy trying to be the perfect daughter and fiance.
I think that Harry awakened those parts of her during the tour, and those aspects of her are part of the possible other self that she has sensed in Europe. In her mind, he must be part of her quest, even if she’s not fully conscious of why. That gesture of opening the balcony doors in Amsterdam–in part to hear Harry’s argument–but in part to take in the scene, the smells, the sounds, the fact that she is free here, speaks to me of an existing sensuality. And she repeats that moment in Prague.
Sejal’s sensuality, sexuality, and way of loving romantically is childlike, as Claudia and others have said. Part of the fun of the movie is watching her integrate that sense of play into her emerging self. But that is very different from being totally innocent of sex. So, I see Sejal as fully adult from the beginning, but inexperienced and with bits of her that have been repressed and now awakening. Part of that may be because that “a child who becomes a woman thanks to a good man” idea just grosses me out, even metaphorically.
I think her journey with Harry starts as less “I had no idea there might be something sexual or romantic between us.” and more, “This guy is a servant. I can invite him into my hotel room, tease him about the possibility of sex (indemnity bond and “high hopes”), because my relative status to him makes me safe.” And, less consciously, “I may actually want to explore something sexual or romantic with this guy.”
Then very soon, she starts to see him as a person, to react to him as a person, and to be grateful to him because he sees her–and isn’t being seen and liked for who you are one of the most attractive things ever? It just occurred to me, I like Claudia’s and your idea of their roles progressing from client/servant, to pretend girlfriend/boyfriend (in that limited good-girl sense); to friend/friend, to wife/husband.
As I said in other posts, I am mystified by how much Sejal is fully aware of or reflecting on her sensual, sexual, and romantic feelings at different stages. As you say, Harry is expert at feeling feelings, while also analyzing them. But when does Sejal start developing that skill?
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See, it’s when Mayank asks her! She literally has no idea what is happening to her, hasn’t even thought about thinking about it, until he forces her to. And then willy-nilly, Shahrukh blows up at her, Rupen puts pressure on her, and she is thrown on a plane before she can finish the process. I picture her return to India involving massive self-examination for the first time ever, followed by a realization that she hates her whole life and canceling the wedding.
I honestly wouldn’t mind a follow up movie that just covered the month or so in Sejal’s life between leaving Amsterdam and Shahrukh appearing. I’m picturing a series of slowly escalating moments of realization, pitched battles with family members, massive effort to reinvent her life (did she find a new job? Did she move out and have to find her own apartment? Does she even have a bank account of her own?), culminating in her happy ending reward. Shahrukh just had to hop a plane and sneak into a wedding, she had to change everything about her life in a month with no support or guarantee of a happy ending.
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Agreed. She’s not a naive baby.
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I understood Sejal – I grew up in a small midwest town in the 50’s and 60’s and you were expected to do things in a certain manner. Or as my mother used to say, “A woman should only appear in the newspapers three times, birth, marriage and death.” You were supposed to be the good, obedient daughter, never cause waves (Sejal!) and get married and have babies. I did that, of course my first marriage was a disaster. Being so sheltered I had no idea what I was doing. Sejal would have suffered the same fate except for the lucky lose of her ring. Fate, maybe? Having a woman’s body and intellect but a child’s emotions and outlook on life is a horrible combination. Her journey seemed fast but it really wasn’t. Freed from her restrictive lifestyle and partnered with Harry was her “growth spurt”. She had to experience emotions and situations she’d never encountered before and process them quickly – which she mostly did. I felt a deep fondness for Sejal and cheered her revelations. Anushka played her so well, showing the confusion and pain of this journey.She finally came into her own as a woman and was really ready when Harry came for her.
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What I love is that, by the end, you realize this isn’t just a matter of a woman like any other who is changed by remarkable experiences, Sejal was always different, on the inside, she was just waiting for something to unlock that. Maybe there are plenty of other women (her older sister for instance) who would be happy with the small life she was offered, but Sejal was always going to end up unhappy, to want and look for more.
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I like this thought of getting “unlocked”. It is valuable for both protagonists in the movie.
I just wrote in a new comment about the strengths that already were inside Sejal which only did not get the room to breathe. After Amsterdam she got a loooot of open space to unfold…to become the beautiful butterfly (okay, she had to eat her way through some rather rough things, a bit like The Very Hungry Caterpillar 🙂 )
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Ooo, i like that idea of caterpillar to butterfly! It fits will with my feeling during Phurr, that is is kind of asleep, unaware of what is happening to her while it is happening to her. Similar to a caterpillar in a chrysalis, she isn’t quite done yet, she has to sort of take a moment for all the changes to take effect.
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 1:19 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:
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