Wednesday Watching Post: What Are We Reading and Thinking and Watching and Listening To This Week? And Which is the Worst Sex Scene in Indian Film?

Happy Wednesday! This is my first full week of work since I returned from vacation and I DON’T LIKE IT. 5 days in a row is too many days. Especially when I no longer have a vacation to look forward to. Oh well, halfway done now. At least, halfway done as of noon today.

I’ll start!

Reading: I’m going to plug Shaheen Bhatt’s memoir again. Really, a very good and quick read. And cheap! Less than $2 on Kindle. At the very least, you should read my review of it. (buy it here)

Thinking: I had to eat cold pizza last night because of civic engagement and it was HORRIBLE. I ordered pizza for pick-up on the way home from work, then remembered it was the run off election day and I had to vote first and by the time I picked up my pizza it was cold. I think I should be featured in a short story on the price of democracy.

Watching: I am trying out youtubeTV and have discovered that they have TCM! If you are not American, TCM is the channel that shows very very old obscure films, with little intros and short documentaries to teach you more about film in between them. I’m finding all my old favorites. It is perfect TV to have on on the background while writing and every once in a while look up and go “Is that Greta Garbo in a Swedish silent movie?”

Listening: Writing my review got me back on the Highway soundtrack. It really is just amazing, start to finish.

Now, question for you! We were just talking about Ericka Kaar and Shivaay in context of Ajay’s new movie and it made me wonder, Is the Shivaay sex scene the worst sex scene ever or is Dayavan worst?

Here is Dayavan:

Here is Shivaay:

I think we can all agree that it is not sexy to be either a) with late 80s Vinod Khanna or b) in a tent falling off the side of a mountain (she also has a broken leg, by the way). But the question is, which of those situations is LESS sexy????

I think for myself, considering all the angles, I would rather have sex with Ajay in a tent on the side of a mountain with a broken leg, than with late 1980s Vinod Khanna.

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43 thoughts on “Wednesday Watching Post: What Are We Reading and Thinking and Watching and Listening To This Week? And Which is the Worst Sex Scene in Indian Film?

  1. I’m reading Zareen Khan’s Koi Good News? I thought it was possibly related to the upcoming movie with Akshay and Kareena, but that film is about surrogacy I think and this one isn’t. Anyway…very light, but forgettable commuting reading.

    Finally catching up with movies I’ve been waiting to see forever…will continue to rant and rave as I go! Still thinking about Kedarnath a couple of days later. Namaste England was so bad that it killed my affection for Parineeti and concern for her career and Arjun is on my list as well.

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    • I agree about any 80s Vinod Khanna scene…I’m scarred for life after watching Parampara.

      There are so few actual sex scenes in the Indian films I’ve watched and not many are actually filmed in a realistic way, especially since I avoid those “erotic thrillers” (I even hate the term). So I don’t know if

      But nothing makes me more uncomfortable than watching Katrina and SRK kiss in that Yash Chopra movie I can never remember the name of.

      I do remember my favorite sex scenes: John and Vidya in Salaam-E-Ishq, Arjun and Shruti in D-Day, and Anushka and Ranveer in BBB (or at least the ones that always come to mind the fastest).

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  2. Sure Dayavan is the worst! No need to ask. I was avoiding this scene for months but now I watched it, and unfortunately I can’t unseen it.
    Shivaay has Ajay, who is attractive, and all this situation is very dangerous,full of adrenaline and sexy. Dayavan instead has a guy who looks like creep, the scene is too long and WTH was this part whit the rain and soap? Yuck . I always thought shower scenes are so sexy, but now wil have goosebumbs everytime I will think about it or when I will be using soap!

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    • The situation of the Ajay sex is pretty horrible, broken leg and freezing cold and imminant death and all, and the Vinod scene is all warm and safe and comfortable. And yet, I would still rather be with Ajay.

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  3. I never understood the Garbo hype; her “mesmerizing” beauty was just that – left me stone cold. But after catching a few of her flicks on TCM this week, I’m revising my opinion. Her acting is almost modern, much less flamboyant and more natural than Joan Crawford’s, say. Garbo somehow manages to convey emotional nuance even tho her “frozen cameo” face never seems to change. As for sex scenes in Indian cinema, I’m all for them. I like the romantic ones more than the ones that try too hard. And the creepy ones (Sunny Leone?) just make me laugh.
    And sex with Ajay in a porto-ledge (I think that’s what it’s called) can’t be all bad.

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    • Now that I think about it, I think the only Garbo movie I have seen is Ninotchka, which used her face in a really interesting way, having everyone else perform like they are in a fun screwball comedy and Garbo sticking out, and that was the humor of it. Also, that would be a GREAT plot to remake in India! Oh, I really want to do that now! Except I would reverse the genders so it is less about discovering femininity and more about discovering fun and joy and frivolity.

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      • Do it! A serious, bookish guy who has no idea how gorgeous he is (any number of actors could play the part; Prithviraj, Madhavan) is under the thumb of his harridan mother (Farida Jalal) who tells him the world is a dangerous place and women are evil. She chooses his clothes, and is looking for a bride she can browbeat. He sits on the conservative (read backwards, stuffy) town council run by a local thug (KayKay Menon). The thug’s pretty daughter (Oh, I don’t know, pick one, Taapsee) takes it upon herself to re-educate the Prithviraj character to the joys of life and, in the process, revitalize the town. Using some kind of ruse, she loads mother and son into a van and they travel across India (I love those travelogues, like the one with Dulquer and Irrfan Khan where they try to return the body of a woman the mortuary gave him in error) on a voyage of discovery. Back home, Prithviraj (now in jeans and a muscle tee – has to be Prithviraj; Madhavan’s picked up too much weight)) ousts the thug, becomes head of the town, and, oh yeah, marries the daughter.
        Or some facsimile thereof. I know you’ll come up with a better plot. Can’t wait to hear it.

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        • This is all lovely and I am excited to write it out more! Only disagreement, Maddy can never put on too much weight, he is always perfect.

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          • The young Madhavan captured my interest immediately, but I didn’t fall in love with him until Saala Kadoos. ( I know; I’m such a slut.) He’s still tops on my list, but in the “amazing actor” category rather than the “amazing actor with an amazing torso category. My husband’s an old guy now, but he still has more or less the body of the lifeguard he used to be. Now MY body, on the other hand….

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  4. I was trying very hard to not fall into temeptation of watching bad Unni Mukundan film, unfortunately the two movies I have seen instead were worse than anything Unni did.

    First I watched Drishtikone – bengali film, I was obsessed lately. There are no subtitles, but I watched it anyway. I didn’t like it and found it very boring. But the good thing is that I learn two words in bengali (I-ami, you-tumi), and that Prosenjit Chatterjee is so handsome in lawer suits.

    And than Prime recommended me Villain

    https://i2.wp.com/www.moviesvala.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Villain-Bengali-Movie-2018-Watch-Online-Free.jpg?resize=550%2C350&ssl=1

    Google tells me it’s inspired by Nani’s Gentelman, but for me it was bengali Race 3 – illogical plot with many twists, beautiful faces without much talent, and a lot of shirtless fighting scenes. The protagonist is very very sexy, especially as the good “twin”, and I loved that the girl wasn’t typical “Damsel in distress”. When she had a problem she fixed it by herself (there is a scene when she [in beautiflul posh sari] kidnaps and beats the bad guy; or when she finds the bad guys in like 5 minutes, when all the men wasn’t able to do it in weeks). Apart those two things I don’t reccomend this film. Especially because it has one of the stupidest ending ever. SPOILER The good guy saves his mother, but the bad pople who organized it all escape, and left him in trouble.

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    • You should totally watch Nani’s Gentleman!!!! Nani is so good, and the heroine is fun, and the plot actually makes sense. Also, Dishoom! my recommendation for dumb shirtlessness!

      Although I am very impressed that you are adding yet ANOTHER language industry to your collection.

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      • I remember about Dishoom. Will watch it next time when I need some shirtless action. But before that – Unni. When I will find something with subtitles. I don’t have luck lately – everything I want or was recommended to me doesn’t have subtitles. And the list is longer and longer everyday: first and most important Laila Majnu, then Ira, Malli Raava, a lot of other other telugu rom-coms, and many more 😦

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        • This is why I’ve been stuck on eithusan, I think they are file sharing from DVDs, probably illegally. But because they are using DVDs as the basis, they are more likely to have subtitles than the regular streaming sources.

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          • Unfortunately there are always less dvds so they take the content from Prime, Netflix and Zee, and if it’s from Zee or other bad site there are no subs 😦

            From other news – no Ek ladki… for italian netflix users. I wonder why I still didn’t unsubscribe

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          • Boo Netflix!

            Are you able to get it on einthusan?

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          • Italian fans have it with italian subs, but I’m not sure I want to watch it, because I can’t stand Sonam’s acting.

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          • Do it do it!!!! It’s mostly about Juhi and Anil and Rajkummar, not Sonam.

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    • Yay, Prosenjit! He has a weird career, I guess, in that he’s in just about everything. Seriously, I just checked his filmography and he’s in an average of seven films a year (just eyeballing; I didn’t actually do the math). He’s in films that are really bad but popular, and he’s in a bunch of art films as well. For the former, I’ve seen him in Praktan, which Margaret has heard all about how much I hate. He’s also in Autograph, which I also hated, but possibly because it is an ill-considered remake of the Satyajit Ray film Nayak, which is one of my favorites. If you don’t think it’s sacrilegious it might be a more enjoyable film. Art films he was in that I like are Unishe April and Chokher Bali, opposite Aishwarya.

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      • Oh yes. I read his filmography and was astonished because for years he was doing like 10 or more movies a year. So he had a movie every month. It’s crazy

        I have seen Chokher Bali, and I’m sure I even own a dvd.

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  5. Poor Vinod is getting so much flak for that scene in Dayawan. But he handled it better in Satyameva Jayate. But his callous treatment of Meenakshi Sheshadri in the film is appalling. What makes it better is that he gets a thorough dressing down from best friend Vinod Mehra . The movie is about a tough cop and the three women in his life.One his ex-girl friend whose life interwines with his professional life frequently, the second is Meenakshi playing a prostitute he frequents and the last is his enemy Madhavi, whose brother dies in Vinod’s custody in jail.The movie is on Youtube with subtitles.

    That’s Meenakshi gazing at him soulfully after he yells at her and throws money on her face.

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    • Vinod deserves everything for that Dayavan scene!!!! The direction is appalling (a low angle shot of him looming over her? Really?), but Vinod could have at least given some expression to his face so it was less zombie like and terrifying.

      And poor Meenakshi needs to get some self-respect!

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      • Wasn’t Dayavan directed by Firoz Khan? He’s the king of sexy song done wrong.Vinod must have needed money badly or else trusted Feroz a bit too much -afterall Qurbani was also directed by Feroz and it was a hit.Agree about poor Meenakshi. She does stand up to Vinod once and gets a few of her digs in.From her viewpoint, he’s pretty much the only man who’s treated her decently when she needed help badly.

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  6. Watching: My on again off again house guests are back and one of them was up for finishing Sacred Games, so I finally saw the last five episodes. I’ll have to go back and read your reviews. Thought it was good, but found the cliff hanger kind of disappointing, I’m hoping there will be some other twist. Oh, and the menfolk made fun of Saif’s last fight scene, because he hit the other guy in the back with a hatchet and then they knocked each other around for a bit and then the guy slung his backpack on his back before he left.

    Then I went back and watched parts of Raees to compare Nawazuddins. (I thought some of the supporting actors were the same too but looking at the cast list maybe not.) It was interesting, Sacred Games is full on gritty in the Nawazuddin scenes, he’s the toughest gangster but in a realistic register. Raees is the toughest gangster too, but with hidden superhero powers – he can jump off buildings onto moving trucks and kick someone with both feet at once and kill a bad guy by stabbing him in the neck with eyeglasses. Raees can only be defeated when he surrenders. I think this was one of the other problems with the movie, the tone wasn’t consistent. The scenes with Nawazuddin are going more for gritty, but then the romance was very pretty and romantic, and most of the fight scenes were kung fu style with too many rope tricks. It didn’t make up its mind what it wanted to be. Nawazuddin has more chemistry with his Sacred Games co-stars than with Shah Rukh. They’re good together but there’s an intimacy that’s missing.

    Thinking: so much traveling coming up, so much work to do before then. Tick tock tick tock.

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    • Are you the one who is going to work with me to fix Raees? Anyway, I think you are on to something. Keep the Raees eyeglass killing and butcher market fight, those are awesome and also grounded. But either get rid of or reshoot the other fight scenes to make them similarly grounded. Tone the romance down a bit so it is still there, but more real. That scene right before and after the Laila fight would be in a good register.

      I actually don’t want Nawazuddin in Raees to have as good chemistry as he does with people in Sacred Games. Keep him feeling a little above and beyond them all, his only close friend his dog. Maybe underline that even more, more dog scenes contrasted with how Raees is always surrounded by people.

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      • Keep trying to fix Raees :). This is the first time I felt I was seeing clearly, I think it’s the right contrast. You want the grit and violence and corruption like in Sacred Games, but with some bigger action setpieces and a stronger moral framework.

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        • “Moral framework”, that’s the other thing missing! That’s what I have focused on before in my attempts to fix it, make it clearer that Shahrukh was a martyr for his community and Nawazuddin and the corrupt state were the evil ones who forgot the people. But it still won’t work if you have the superhero fight scenes and stuff.

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  7. Still orienting students, still no time to watch, but this weekend is Bajrangi Bhaijaan weekend, and I also am planning to watch Dosar (Bengali). Made another attempt at Kabhi Kabhie and got another 25 minutes or so in, which means only 45 to go. Then it paused and I’ve made two attempts to continue watching since then but it’s not cooperating. If I can’t finish it, at least I saw Rishi Kapoor jump with straight legs onto a horse’s back, so there’s that.

    Vinod doesn’t look like he’s staring with lust in that clip, he looks like he’s contemplating wearing her as a jacket. And I’ve always found Ajay pretty sexy. So I will go with Ajay although the thought of having sex in a precariously anchored tent is not really appealing.

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    • Oh the last 45 minutes are the BEST!!!! You get the Greatest Chase Scene Ever, and you get Amitabh admitting he is a small petty horrible person. Well, at least coming close to it.

      Poor Vinod, no one wants him. This must be why he ran off to Oregon.

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  8. Just watched Bachna Ae Haseeno after ages. I had forgotten what a good actress Bipasha was, how bad Deepika used to be in her earlier days, that Minisha Lamba was an actress, that I used to like Ranbir before and how great the music was.
    I love the 2000s Yrf and Dharma films!! I guess I’m going to watch Aaja Nachle next.

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    • Bachna Ae Haseeno, my immediate primary thought is always KUNAL KAPOOR IN A TURBAN!!!!!! That whole sequence is so amazing it makes it hard for me to focus on the rest of the film. And then you should watch Aaja Nachle for KUNAL KAPOOR AS A GUNDA. And then Laage Chunari Main Daag for KUNAL KAPOOR IN SUITS!

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  9. The young Madhavan captured my interest immediately, but I didn’t fall in love with him until Saala Kadoos. ( I know; I’m such a slut.) He’s still tops on my list, but in the “amazing actor” category rather than the “amazing actor with an amazing torso category. My husband’s an old guy now, but he still has more or less the body of the lifeguard he used to be. Now MY body, on the other hand….

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  10. Just read the “Hot Maddy” post, bro. It is right on the money, and I picked up a few flicks that I haven’t seen. Hope they are streaming somewhere. Thanks.
    I am still so awed by the knowledge your subscribers have about Indian cinema. And by how respected your site is all over the world. So happy to be a small part of it!

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      • Maddy in Vettai is so cute, but I didn’t like how they filmed him. I wanted to just relax and enjoy his cuddlyness but camera was showing him always from far or very quickly. It was so frustrating!

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        • I think we were supposed to find Ajay, the younger brother, the sexy one. He got lots of glamour shots. But of course NO, because cuddly Maddy is better than anyone.

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          • Some time ago I read an interview with Maddy where he told, that he realized he is not a big star in tamil, on the set of Vettai, because he found out he was paid less. When I read this I understood why he was filmed so bad. Stupid Vettai

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