Box Office: Shubh Mangal Saavdhan Finally Gets It Up

Huh?  Huh?  My punning skills have come back!  Okay, and they are also a little dirty.  But it’s not my fault, it’s the movie! (as always, numbers courtesy of Bollywoodhungama, full figures available here)

Remember how last week I said that the big story wasn’t Arjun Reddy being the top Indian film in America, it was that the Indian box office was TERRIBLE that week?  Well, same goes this week!  Shubh Mangal Saavdhan, a small slice of life romance with no big big stars, is the top Indian film in America.  But it is 34th in the overall American box office.  And it made less than $2,000 per screen.  On only 58 screens.  That’s baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Meanwhile, Baadshaho, which was supposed to be our big hit, made only $533 per screen.  BWA-HA-HA-HA!!!!  Take that Ajay and your stupid midlife crisis hair!  Phew, that felt good to get out of my system.

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(I just…what even IS this?)

Oh and Arjun Reddy?  Yeah, the super mature type of realistic film isn’t going to save us either.  Down to only $1,247 per screen.

So, what is doing good this week?  Bareilly Ki Barfi!  Week 4, still at a solid $1,214 per screen.  Which is slightly better than Arjun Reddy just because it was a slower easier slide, with a lot less expectations.

Equally important, what is doing worst?  I think I would have to give it to Poster Boys.  Daddy is technically doing worst per screen, but then Daddy was never going to be a huge hit, expectations were a little lower.  Poster Boys, it’s not like anyone thought it would be a great movie, but there was a small hope of at least breaking even at the box office, that someone would enjoy watching it.  And, NOPE!  $500 per screen.  In OPENING WEEK.

This pattern, but the way, more or less holds worldwide.  Baadshaho, Poster Boys, terrible.  Bareilly Ki Barfi, steady.  And Arjun Reddy, where it is playing, is dropping suddenly in week 3.

 

So, what does it MEAN?  Well, people should stop making bad movies.  This is the tipping point, right here, where word of mouth takes control over publicity.  Baadshaho, crazily publicized, no box office there.  Bareilly Ki Barfi, minimal publicity, doing well.  Shubh Mangal Saavdhan, Daddy, Poster Boys, all about the same publicity, and finding their natural level.

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(Ugh, a terrible publicity campaign!  I have no interest in seeing the movie that goes with this poster)

And Arjun Reddy, bonkers strange publicity (poster campaign followed by news stories about poster campaign), wide release, made it mostly on word of mouth, but ran through the limited audience it could reach by week 3.

Looks like the bad times are going to keep on coming at least through the end of the month at this point.  I’m not seeing anything terribly exciting on the horizon.  But, if I am being optimistic, my hope is that I am not the only one seeing this pattern and more Bareilly Ki Barfis (great script, great director, small release, long run as word of mouth builds) will come out, along with a smattering of Arjun Reddys (risky subject matter that will be very popular in one audience segment), and NO BAADSHAHOS!!!!!

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97 thoughts on “Box Office: Shubh Mangal Saavdhan Finally Gets It Up

  1. I love the title 😉

    I had no interest in watching Baadshaho, but now when you wrote that it did so poorly, and made me notice Ajay’s hair, I want watch it. Maybe it’s be so bad it’s good, like Mehbooba, my all-time favourite guilty-pleasure.

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          • LOL this video is just too much. But I can’t enjoy it fully because I have seen this movie many times, and they are brothers in it (and it’s one of the most important things that make this movie so bad / good )

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          • Well now I kind of don’t want to watch the movie, because I don’t want to ruin the video!

            On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 2:37 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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    • Yeah, Arjun Reddy is looking super good partly because it is the only Telugu film in ages to do at all well. In Tamil, Madhavan’s “I’m a grown up cop who fixes his own motorcycle and has hot make-up sex with his wife” movie did okay, but some other real big stuff flopped (most notably Ajith’s new film). The next HUGE release is Mahesh Babu’s Spyder coming at the end of this month, Mahesh doesn’t do a lot of films, so every release is a big big deal. And this one is supposed to have an insane budget, and was shot simultaneously in Tamil and Telugu so it’s trying to hit both markets. If it flops, that’s gonna be a real game changer for the industries.

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        • Well, actually the next big release is Jr. NTR’s Jai Lava Kusa in which he plays three characters. I just haven’t talked about it much since it hasn’t gotten me very excited so far. Plus it’s technically competing with Spyder since it’s coming out on the 21st. Here’s the trailer:

          Anyway coming to Spyder, it’s supposedly made on a 125 crore budget which is really high. Comparatively Jai Lava Kusa was made on a budget of 45 crores. As of now, all the Mahesh fans I know are really excited about Spyder especially since it’s coming after the disaster that was Brahmotsavam. I’m personally just nervous about how the movie will be received in Tamil Nadu because this will be Mahesh’s first straight Tamil film. I don’t have box office predictions in India but in terms of the United States, Spyder is getting a huge release. I think it’s getting around 400 screens (250 Telugu, 150 Tamil split) and that’s huge when you see that Brahmotsavam got about 200 screens. The U.S. is known as Mahesh’s territory because even his worst films like Brahmotsavam and Aagadu do really well here. So it’s expected Spyder will do well, it’s just a matter of how well 🙂
          Here’s the teaser of Spyder!

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          • I knew you would know everything! I wonder if Spyder is so big, it is going to bump Judwaa 2 off screens? In my market at least, a 400 screen release means all hands on deck, every single theater that even thinks about showing Indian films will be playing it. Which leaves very very few screens for Judwaa.

            On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 2:10 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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          • Oh okay. Do you think that they’ll keep all the screens for the entire first week or will it be something like a 400 screen premiere and then downsizing a bit by friday?

            Okay, I’m getting conflicting info since some websites are saying that Spyder is getting an 800 screen release. The press release that I read yesterday said 400 screens. http://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/after-baahubali-2-mahesh-babus-spyder-to-get-biggest-release-in-us-1749312

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          • It could be a “four wall” thing. That is, some outside company rents out a theater to show the movie. That’s how I saw Bahubali, and I heard it was the same in a lot of places, you went to a regular multiplex, but that particular showing was sponsored by someone else. Which would also solve the issue with sharing screens with Judwaa. If Judwaa is doing regular distribution in regular theaters for Indian film, and the extra screens for Spyder are coming from special event screenings outside of the regular theaters.

            On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 2:53 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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          • Oh okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I think they did that a lot with Baahubali. I saw it at a Cinemark that regularly shows Indian movies but there were a lot of random showings at theaters that never showed Indian movies before.

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          • It would be safest with a film like this or Bahubali. If it costs you $500 to rent the theater for the screening, you only have to sell 10 tickets and you’ve made your money back, and the 11th ticket is pure profit. So even if it isn’t in the regular Indian theater and not many people know about it, you can still make your money off of just a handful. Unlike Judwaa where it would be more like $8 a person and you’d need to come close to selling out before you make a profit.

            On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 3:00 PM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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          • Oh, that’s interesting. Turns out that I misread so Spyder is releasing in 400+ locations and about 800 screens.

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          • One thing that intrigues me is that Spyder is releasing on a Wednesday which means that the premieres will be on a Tuesday. Will releasing in the middle of the week affect the the box office a lot?

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          • Thank you for this!! I was reading about the films’ pre-release business and apparently JLK has already done a 110c+ business and Spyder has 150c. Just in terms of numbers the movies seem to have recovered the production cost. Do you trust those figures? And do you give much weight to pre-release numbers in a film’s overall business??

            Buzz-wise, JLK hindi rights have been bought by “a leading TV channel” which I’m guessing is Sony Max who have a new “Dil Se South” promotion that I watched just yesterday (Mirchi was on, sooo… hehe) It excites me because we’re probably going to get more south films dubbed in hindi. Which is good for us and also good for south films who can now sell hindi rights right off the bat even if the film isn’t released in the theatres in the north.

            The really exciting news is that Spyder Hindi rights are getting bought by Dharma Productions! Not sure how authentic that news is but that is big news right??? Dharma is also bankrolling Saaho which isn’t a surprise (again, not sure how “official” that is but why would they lie about this?). So Dharma is early birding South films’ northern launches. How much of a difference would that, you think, would make to these films’ domestic business ??

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          • @Margaret: The worldwide release is on the 27th but North America and some areas in the Telugu states will be getting premiers on the 26th.

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          • So if I do pay oodles and oodles of money, I could put up a review before some of the Indian outlets have access. Oooo!

            On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:08 AM, dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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          • @Asmita:

            I honestly don’t trust those figures much because of all the fanwars that go on. There are arguments about both the pre-release business and the box office collections and following those numbers kinda gets tiring. Usually about a couple months later, there’s a number that most fans agree with and I usually go with that number. For example, I’ve heard numbers ranging from 80-100 crores when it comes to Srimanthudu’s box office collection. I’ve seen some Mahesh fans argue that the collection is 90+ but the most agreed upon number among fans of all heroes in 84 crores share.

            I have a question. So how often are these south movies that are dubbed into Hindi remade? For example, I’m seeing rumors that Ranveer Singh’s movie with Rohit Shetty is going to be a remake of Temper. Since Temper came out in 2015 and was a fairly big hit, I’m assuming it was already dubbed into Hindi.

            I saw those rumors about a month ago but after that there hasn’t been any update. Plus you would think that if Karan Johar got Spyder’s hindi rights, he would want to do a simultaneous release which doesn’t look like it’s happening. The latest I’ve heard is that Spyder will have a Hindi dubbed release but it’s going to be sometime later. I haven’t heard anything about Dharma bankrolling Saaho though. I think it’s too early to know that many details about Saaho.

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          • @Margaret: Honestly, I’m predicting that the highest it will be is $25. This is only based on Jai Lava Kusa’s premieres being priced at $18.

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          • There is a definite downturn in the remake business since there are at least three major hindi movie channels that have been focusing on Hindi dubbed South films. Up until like a year and a half ago, we got dubbed south films released on hindi TV with weird hindi titles (Khatarnak Khiladi, Dangerous Khiladi, something something else khiladi and so on).

            NOW, however, we are getting south hindi dubbed version premiered with their original titles. There’s even an Allu Arjun ad on at least one hindi channel which means south stars are getting name recognition in the north now.

            Recently, VIP2 and Nene Raju Nene Mantri were both screened in my tier 2 town in their original languages. VIP2 was released in hindi too but like a week later and at select screens. So south films’ reach is widening. This means remaking a film hindi audience has already seen before is less lucrative.

            This is why I was really interested in hindi rights for major south releases post-BB. The figures may be fudged and inflated but the trend is indisputable. Hindi films play in the south and if south films are also getting released in the north, no more bad hindi remakes of good south films, right?

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      • Not sure if you only meant the US BO for the Ajith film Vivegam but otherwise it definitely seems to have come out a hugely profitable film. Again numbers may be inflated or misleading but it comfortably recovered it’s cost even within it’s Tamil Nadu run despite getting bad reviews too. Star power is still not dead then even on its own. And the only big release next before the mega 2.0 comes out is the return of Vijay-AR Rahman combo Mersal which is incidentally co written by the same guy who wrote Bajrangi and Baahubali.

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        • Yeah, US BO, I’m never sure what source to trust for India.

          Just looked up Mersal, very interested! Looks like the director also made raja rani? Which I still haven’t seen, but have heard very good things about.

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          • He also made Theri last year with Vijay which was a big hit, and it was a decent movie. I didn’t love it or anything but I didn’t think it was a bad movie either.

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          • Yeah same guy and Raja Rani was indeed a good debut. Would definitely recommend for a Tuesday Tamil or something and no this time I still have it on my own laptop so I’ll be able to better engage and remember the lovely scenes etc.! Quite an emotional rollercoaster of a film that. Allowed myself to cry only coz I was watching alone.

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          • Yeah, Raja Rani is a good choice for Tuesday Tamil. Another reason to watch it is that it has Nazriya Nazim in it!

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          • It’s more that I have a massive backlog of films I have promised to watch for Tuesdays. Somehow the Monday suggestions have slowed down, but now I’ve got Raja Rani, plus the Suriya Gautham Menon film that Niki has been telling me about for ages, plus the Nagarjuna Sonali film that I forgot about until just now, and then there was that very dedicated commentator who wanted me to watch something I can never remember. Idli Rani Raja? Idli Rana Idli Raja? Something like that. Niki, do you remember?

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          • Well Vaaranam is an almost solely hero centric coming of age film but still very good of course. Raja Rani is more balanced and more focused. So just depends on what you want to watch. Very different films.

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          • I was going more with Niki has been waiting for me to watch Vaaranam for about a year and a half, and no one has really been bugging me about Raja Rani, so I should go with Vaaranam. Well, that plus I LOVE Gautham Menon, and I don’t know how I feel about Atlee yet.

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          • Can’t go wrong with either anyway so just pick one! Or both like you picked out two sweaters the other day or something.

            WHY DO I REMEMBER THAT!

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          • Because you listen! And remember and pay attention. Very rare in anyone, especially on the internet. Especially boys chatting with girls on the internet. And there’s your build up.

            and for the teardown……I don’t know? Something emasculating about sweaters?

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          • You’re talking about Malli Malli Idi Rani Roju which is a really good movie as well! Remember Ryan C.? He tried to find this movie with subtitles and he couldn’t find it anywhere.
            In terms of how much I like these movies i would rank them as such:
            1. Vaaranam Aayiram
            2. Malli Malli Idi Rani Roju
            3. Ninne Pelladatha (Nagarjuna and Tabu movie that I used to bug you about. I was gonna give you break since you finally watched Luck By Chance but just wanted to mention it again 🙂 )
            4. Manmadhudu (Nagarjuna and Sonali)
            5. Raja Rani

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          • See, THIS is what I need!!! It’s not the quality of the films, it’s how much pleasure I can give to the commentariat by watching them.

            And as I thought, Vaaranam is on top.

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          • Haha yeah lets leave the teardown to those who think singing in trees is still in vogue even as a taunt. It’s 2017, and the trees around you would have started losing leaves anyway now.

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          • Perfect! As you know, being nice generally comes much more naturally to me than being mean. So i will stick with my strengths.

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          • And thanks to the earlier discussion about being on top it’s not my fault if I recall only that context forever.

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          • See how nice you are? Making it clear you would only use that word if you were given explicit permission?

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          • Problem is those of her type scoff at guys who are too nice like that na. See how she said desi guys who think they can’t get white girls and don’t even try are stupid Indian boys.

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          • Well, to be fair, I have seen desi guys get white girls plenty of times. Like, in real life, not just Salman Khan.

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          • Just recovered from an existential crisis no less. I’ve decided to deal with that fact like those guys must have been born to desi parents in US that’s why. So they uh don’t count. Also those who start here at undergrad level also don’t count. Nope. So who else must I convince myself against?

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          • Oh. Yeah of course that is it. I mean obviously I’ve gotten loads of phone numbers but it’s not on me if they just don’t respond. Or block my number. Or report me. No just kidding that last bit never happened.

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          • You went to UIC?? I’d got an admit there but they were ridiculously expensive! AND they refused any sort of financial aid or assistance whatsoever. So I ended up picking another school that was like 30% cheaper with the academic aid they offered.

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          • UIC (University of IL at Chicago) or U of C (University of Chicago)? I never thought of UIC as that expensive. Of course, I was also paying in state tuition. Anyway, my main goal was to go to school in Chicago, so I had a built in limitation, and I hated all the other options (although they all had prettier campuses).

            I would ask what school you ended up at, but that would be pushy. Although, I have to point out, you do now know my alma mater.

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          • Yeah UIC. Plus my research showed living expenses were also sky high in Chicago! Of course your blog didn’t exist 4 years ago or else I could have freeloaded at yours :p

            And haha okay fair’s fair I went to UF @ Gainesville. Go Gators!

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          • Hey! Birthplace of Gatorade! one of those facts that blew my mind when I learned it, for no particular reason.

            I guess Chicago is expensive if you compare it with anywhere that isn’t a top American city. But so much cheaper than the other cities! San Francisco, Boston, New York, LA, just crazy compared to Chicago. And, you know, it’s also the best place on earth (if you ask my family).

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          • You’d think being a student there automatically gets you free Gatorade as long as you’re there but nope.

            Oh yeah NY area is damn expensive as well I had SUNY Buffalo as an option there but one of my biggest ever regrets will remain not doing the right kind of research before deciding against ASU. Turns out it is a regular party school rankings topper but more to the point it apparently has a reputation for the hottest girls in attendance 😐

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          • Where do you even research that? I think you must have gotten different college research books than me. Of course, all I did was flip to the index for location and automatically limit it down to the 6 schools available in Chicago. No idea which of those had/has the hottest girls in attendance. Maybe Northwestern? Or Loyola. Hmm. Now I have to think on this, possibly take a survey of my friends, come up with an objective grading scale, etc. etc.

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          • I didn’t research properly na that’s the problem lol. My first week with the roommates one of them breaks it to me when I tell him about other admits etc. Showed me article after article how ASU is best party school and all that.

            I think the generally cold Chicago climes would drive the hotness down! Notice how ASU and UF are bang in hot belts almost year round :p

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          • You would think, but stupid college girls are stupid college girls everywhere. I work near Northwestern, the female students tend to wear tiny little things year round. Shivering and turning blue the whole time.

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          • Haha and you thought it is unrealistic to have heroines running through snow in summer wear. They’re only showing the reality! Well part of it.

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        • See, somebody had to tear down the mansplaining, not-exactly-always-acha-wala tharki outer facade. I’m a take-charge boss bitch so I did that. And see how much nicer you are on the inside and now that actually nice guy is also visible to other people??

          Also, you have me wrong about nice guys. i don’t scoff at people either. You actually haven’t figured out much of me at all. But you got Margaret right. So 1 out of 2 ain’t bad!! 😛

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          • Nice guys don’t always win na. In fact only recently I found out a reason girls dig the bad boys is self protection — kal agar kuch museebat ho toh chances are bad mf is gonna be more useful kinda when push comes to shove or something.

            And M is an open book re, not all secrety like us. So no points, what you see/read is what you get. Or so I think :p like see how she casually told you about her status when you asked her. no qualms nothing. is mein kya hai jaise.

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          • The kind of girls you’re thinking of is Shriya Saran. Not me.

            Yes, Mr. X was a cliché. But that changed me. Mr. Now only looks big and bad. He’s a total softie, mama’s boy, nice guy who I’m going to great lengths to keep away from the bad crew. Because those guys are the kinds that end up dead.

            And please don’t drag me in the “secrety” bit. That’s all you. If anything, I’ve overshared about myself adding to the overall obnoxiousness of the Internet me.

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          • Open book or empty book? Anyway, this blog and related fandom/opinions is the thing I keep secret from people in “real life”, my boss doesn’t know about it, my church people don’t know about it, etc. etc. So just by virtue of being here, you already know the biggest “secret” I have.

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          • No no please, you can’t guilt me into it. I.. I never asked for this I never asked anything. I can’t bring myself to be serious like I just don’t know how. I know I’m taking the easy option not the right option, sorry.

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          • Okay but why achanak itna serious, just for galti se by mistake calling you secrety. Scary ho gaya. And words like dead and all. I mean if you’re done with my dramebaaz nautanki naatak toh bataa do.

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          • To be honest, I haven’t exactly been ok the last 72 hours. Dreamt of the dead guy and then that entire conversation we had and just went to a dark place. Trying so hard to not let that show and then you’re here and being all serious with your bata do and all. Kya yar.

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          • Watch Bang Bang! No seriously, watch a silly happy movie. that’s my prescription for getting too much inside your own head. Well, that and taking a walk outside, hanging out with friends, and doing other healthy life things. Of which blog commenting is one, since we are all your friends 🙂

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          • But he’s SO PRETTY!!!! And this is the perfect Hrithik role, he just dances and runs and looks pretty holding a gun, and that’s all that is asked of him.

            Well, if you refuse Bang Bang, I can recommend Jacobinte Swarigam, another Nivin movie that is all about good people doing good things and trying their best. It’s not really sexy or romantic, but it always makes me smile.

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          • Oh! Or Aiyyaa! If you haven’t seen it already.

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          • I’ve seen Aiyya before. Never too keenly though. Hey, you gotta watch this:

            This plus the same channel’s video with Kangana!! This controversy is refusing to die down!!

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          • No!!! I can’t get sucked into AIB videos! I know I would never leave. Plus, I can’t watch them while blogging because they are too funny and I have to pay attention.

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          • I added this up once, just to maintain my regular schedule of reviews, I have to spend a minimum of 12 hours watching movies every week. And to maintain my posting rate, i have to spend a minimum of 42 hours a week blogging. Plus 40 hours a week working. So that’s 94 hours. Ideally 56 hours sleeping. 150 hours taken. Which leaves 18 hours in a week for absolutely everything else in my life (friends, family, seeing the sun every once in a while)

            I do occasionally drop the sleeping requirement, but I try to do that only for really important things like seeing Shahrukh’s new movie 4 times in a week.

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          • Ahem. What was it that you were just saying about maintaining a healthy lifestyle like 15 minutes ago?? 😂 No, I totally hear you!! That’s why I said save these for whenever you’ve absolutely nothing to do. Including watching an SRK film for the nth time. I will never ever discourage unhealthy obsessions!

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          • Funny story, Stranger than Fiction was filmed at my college while I was there. Dustin Hoffman’s office is my German classroom. It was very irritating, we had to switch locations in the middle of the semester because they needed the room.

            So yes, I have seen it! Partly just to go “hey! That’s my German classroom”

            And also because I have the most hideous college campus on earth, clearly, since they said “what is a place that will show the depression and emptiness of this character’s life? I know! UIC!”

            and now I kind of want to give you the little mini-history on why exactly my campus is the most confusing and ugly place on earth, but that’s not at all related to your comment.

            Yes, i have seen Stranger than Fiction, is my answer.

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          • So my ranting style is rubbing off on you. Either that or there’s more to the “we might be the same person” theory. It’s a great anecdote about your college!

            Anyway, the reason I referred to the film was because in it, Emma Thompson tells Will Ferrel that his life may not be a tragedy. I don’t mean to sound ominous or depressing but I’ve seen people go from having perfectly idyllic lives to super interesting ones literally overnight.

            I’m sort of an empath (which would explain the paranormal activity I experience) and something tells me you’re on the verge of an interesting phase. Somehow I’m getting the image of a tall white guy who has sort of curly, blond hair. There may exist a picture of this guy with a loose gray t shirt and three quarter cargos. This guy would set forth a change of events.

            Sorry if this sound ridiculous!! 😁

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          • This sounds so ridiculous! Cargos? ICK!!!

            Anyway, now you are going to have me looking at every tall white guy with curly hair that I see and cargo shorts that I see. Which is about 50 a day, they are thick on the ground near my office.

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          • 😂 sorry!! I keep getting these random images in my head which turn out to be significant 95% of the time. Not to sound like a cliché but I do Tarot readings too hence the images. 😂

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          • Well, we’ll see, like I said that type is thick on the ground near my office. It’s possible he is “important” because he is ahead of me in line at the coffee place and takes the last scone, thereby messing up my entire morning, which makes me late for work, which means I miss a meeting, etc. etc. etc. I will let you know!

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          • That is how my Mom’s college roommate met her third husband (so much implied drama in that sentence!), in line at a Starbucks.

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          • Acha ok ok sorry, mujhe kaise pata. This is better just add those throwaway casual words just so I know it’s all good like yaar etc! 😀

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