Wednesday Watching Post: What Are You Reading and Thinking and Watching and Listening to This Week?

Happy Wednesday! I’m still recovering from traveling last weekend and just crawling through the work week. Very eager for Saturday when all I have to do is house chores and sleep in.

I’ll start!

Reading: I’m so boring in this section, just the usual novels for fun and guilt-inducing non-fiction that I start and then don’t complete. If you have any interesting reviews, interviews, blind item gossip stories to link to, please put them in the comments because I’ve got nothing!

Thinking: I told a white lie and I feel sooooo bad about it. We are trying to coordinate a work outing for the holidays, and I said I had plans with a friend this Friday. Which is just because I really really REALLY want to see Street Dancer. But if I consider Varun Dhawan a friend, then it is true. Is one-way friendship a thing? Can Varun be my friend even if I’m not his?

Watching: On top of my overly ambitious review schedule (I think this week’s Friday classic may end up being rescheduled to Saturday again), I am watching a Netflix series “The Inbestigators” for fun. It’s great, an Australian kids show with kids who actually feel like kids in the lead. Very happy making. Oh, and I watched the new season of Grace & Frankie on my flight, which just reminded me of the awesome Grace & Frankie inspired fanfic I wrote (here).

Listening: First, Burns and Allen radio shows! I’m to the 1940 season, and it’s really weird because Artie Shaw is the leader of their studio band and he is so obviously way way WAY too good to be a radio show studio band leader. Anyway, that sent me down an Artie Shaw detour. Very difficult man, great musician. And from the Indian side, the closest I can get to the same sound is this, only Burman and Kishore are doing with their voices what Artie Shaw did with his clarinet:

Now, question for you! I’m tempted to ask which is your favorite big band, but how many people have an answer for that? (for me, Glenn Miller. First CD I ever bought) Instead I will ask a two part question inspired by my post yesterday on heroines: Who do you think will be the next top heroine after Alia? And who do you WANT to be the next top heroine after Alia?

I am always terrible at this things, so I won’t even attempt to answer. But I will consider your answers deeply and decide which one I agree with and will cite in future.

61 thoughts on “Wednesday Watching Post: What Are You Reading and Thinking and Watching and Listening to This Week?

  1. Reading: The new Donna Leon (Commissario Brunetti – Venice) crime novel
    Listening: European Classic music all the day…just as a background score
    Watching: YouTube Videos I’ve stored in my favourites for ‘when I’ve the time to watch them’
    Thinking: about ShahRukh, his health, the problems in India, my family, the surprises life gives me (good and not so good ones)

    future heroines in Hindi cinema??? oh, I think, all the young ones have still a looooot to learn to reach Alia’s level.

    Something that really bothers me is Karan Johar’s way to look at his first movies and to present himself…I feel he has changed in a negative way.

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    • I find Karan’s movies really interesting, when I started watching in the early 2000s KKHH and K3G were universally accepted as good fun beloved films. And then there was this reassessment that seemed to start about 10 years after they came out that looked at them as artistically flawed, and shallow. What I am hoping is that it is just a time issue, once they got old enough to seem dated, and for people to look at them with fresh eyes, they saw all the mistakes. But they will come around again once there is even more distance, nostalgia kicks in, and forgiveness for a different era of filmmaking. We see that all the time with pop culture, it’s popular, then its dated, then it’s nostalgic, then it’s classic.

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  2. I would love to see Sanya Malhotra as the next Queen, even if I think it’s impossible because she doesn’t have influential friends who would help her, like Karan helps Alia. I think Jhanvi can aspire to be the queen, because she is beautiful but even more important, she has people who hand pick the best movies and roles for her.

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    • Oh I want Sanya to be Queen too! Let’s make that happen. Aamir likes her, she got one sleeper hit already as an outsider so more could happen, and she’s only 27 so she’s got time to build up to a break out role. Positive thinking!

      I don’t want Jhanvi to be a thing because she just doesn’t have a spark to me. Granted, I haven’t actually seen one of her movies, but in interviews and still photos and stuff I have seen she feels kind of innocent and childish, not interesting. I would vote for Sara Ali Khan over her, far more interesting in interviews and good in the two movies I have seen from her. But if I controlled the universe, I would say Sanya too.

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      • #TeamSanya Let’s have our fingers crossed! She is talented and beautiful, but not glamourus enough for stupid people who care only about nice pics on Instagram and gossip. But maybe she can be a female Rajkummar Rao?

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        • Maybe she can get into a high profile relationship as a career move? If she starts dating Sid M, I think that would blow her up to a whole new level, right? Do it Sanya! Find yourself a nice famous hunk and use him for his name!

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      • Please correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Jhanvi only have one movie? I realized that I had thought I had seen her in a movie, but then I just double checked, and no it was Shraddha Kapoor. So then I spent the last 20 minutes looking at all the song videos of the true Jhanvi on Youtube, which is from just one movie. But there is one song that made me very interested, in her co-star. And then I looked at Sanya Malhotra music videos, and I realized I had actually seen her sleeper hit, and I liked her. It is impossible not to see the person in her, no empty beauty goddess, but then perhaps that is somewhat because she is not gorgeous. It would be an interesting road to queendom for her, but not impossible. So now I’m paying more attention. Here is the video that made so interested in Jhanvi’s co-star: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB86br7trJ0

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        • Janvhi (trying to do spelling right, even though it is really hard to remember) has one movie complete, one movie filming and close to complete, and a third movie signed. So purely in terms of films in the kitty, she is on top and far ahead of everyone else.

          Janhvi’s co-star in that film is Ishaan Khattar, Shahid Kapoor’s younger half brother. His father is a minor character actor, you probably saw him play one of the gangsters in Don. His mother is a professional classically trained dancer who came to Bombay to choreograph, dance, and do a little acting in movies. And then his older half-brother is Shahid Kapoor. I think when the movie came out, he got slightly better reviews than Janhvi, and he also had an art film that released at the same time where he got really good reviews. But I don’t think he has any major project signed as a follow up?

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  3. First, thank you SO much for th Pineapple Port Mysteries!! I am loving it so much. Next, about your white lie, can you take a friend with you to see Street Dancer? If so, then it is not technically a lie anymore.

    In terms of the next big actress after Alia, I really really hope Pranutan comes up. It will never happen but I think she is lovely. I am also hoping Aaliyah Furniturewalla will blow me away in Jawaani Jaaneman and it will be her. She has a fascinating/complicated family background which always seems to make people good actors, already seems opiniated and smart, and could be the disruption we need. I could, of course, be completely wrong, and the chances of me being wrong are very high. It will end up being Jhanvi or Khushi or someone else like that. I would be okay if it was Sara but I don’t see too many serious, critically accaimable movies in her pipeline.

    I too was getting really frustrated with Karanโ€™s remarks. I love KKHH and KKKG and he has knocked both of them down. Seriously, KKKG was a slap in your face? You made KANK and produced and promoted the heck out of Kalank! He seems to think he is getting better with his stories and directing but I actively dislike some of the movies he seems to be the most proud of โ€“ KANK, and ADHM.

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    • I am so glad you are also reading Pineapple Port! They are so fun, And legitimately good, like I don’t have that “Well, not bad for self-published” feeling. Actually good! And I am working very hard to get Dina to go with me to Street Dancer. Varun is her twin after all (same day and year of birth, how cool is that?) so she owes it to him to be there opening night.

      If Sara gets critical acclaim for Love Aaj Kal, and follows it with commercial success in Coolie, she should be positioned well. But the critical acclaim for LAK looks very dubious right now, right?

      From a technical stand point, Karan has definitely gotten better with every film. But I go to movies for more than that! The camera work and stuff was way better for ADHM than for KKHH, but the story? I just didn’t care about Ranbir-Anushka half as much as I cared about Shahrukh-Kajol.

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      • Agreed, that Pineapple Port is legitimately good and not one of those books, I feel like I need to qualify because I am embarrassed to like it.

        Yeah, critical acclaim for LAK seems very very unlikely right now. That trailer was just bad! I know often a movie can be bad but the actor can be praised but unfortunately, I didn’t see any of Sara’s natural charm come through. I so hope I am wrong on this one.

        I agree that from a technical stand point, Karan has gotten better (K3G was, IMO Karan’s most technically weak movies) but I really could care less about those things (unlike my husband) unless they are OTT distracting. In terms of heart, story, romance, emotion, and relatability, his earlier work was leaps and bounds better!

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        • I think maybe Karan needs to cross a line into technical confidence where he is able to understand how little it matters. Right now he is still learning so fast and gaining so many skills film by film it feels like the most important thing in the world to him, but eventually it just won’t matter as much.

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  4. Honestly, I think Sara probably has the edge in commercial success. To describe the hype surrounding her when Kedarnath/Simmba came out as insane would be a massive understatement. Kiara’s not too far behind her, but I’d like to see Pranutan and Tripti Dimri (the young lady in Laila-Majnu) get some prominence too.

    I’m eagerly anticipating three Netflix Bollywood movies- Kashyap’s Choked (Roshan Mathew – Saiyami Kher seem like a very interesting pairing and I want to see what Anurag does with them), Dibakar Banerjee’s Freedom (Manisha! Kalki! Naseer! Sold!) and Sooni Taraporevala’s Yeh Ballet (two newbies as the leads, but Jim Sarbh in what I presume is a major supporting role).

    And there Mira Nair’s A Suitable Boy (Tabu!).

    Also wondering when Harsh Kapoor’s next movie will come out. I think the lad’s got a lot of talent, and it annoys me that we literally wait 1.5-2 years for something of his to come out. Gimme a May-December romance with Harsh and Konkona or something! Let Harsh be funny! Anything!

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    • I hope Sara keeps her edge! I can’t speak to acting ability for Jhanvi, but in terms of interviews and photoshoots and stuff, Sara had instance sparkle. And I forgot about Kiara! Yes, I love her too, and I want her to stay on the top tier or close to it.

      Oooo, Jim Sarbh in a supporting role! That’s where he shines. I have no interest in seeing him attempt the usual bland hero part, but he can play villain/weird friend as much as he wants.

      Join us in the “where is Harsh?” brigade! Although I think the others of our band are more along the lines of “Harsh is so pretty, where is he?” than “Harsh is so talented”

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  5. I watched War this week ๐Ÿ™‚ It was like the movies I like watching (silly fights, ridiculous twists) but bigger, and better. I usually avoid those big expensive movies because I can’t stand seeing the money wasted and very often those films are an excuse to burn money unnecesary. But War was different. They have spent a lot of money on that but man, it has a lot of spectacle, and it was a pleasure to watch. The fights were choreographed beautifully, men were handsome, landscapes pretty (I don’t know why but I loved the scene in the Arctic when an icebreaker was making his way thru the ice.)

    And today I saw Baaghi and IMHO Baaghi >>>> War. I enjoyed it so much! I understand why your friend loves Tiger and you watch all his movies. He was amazing. And Sudeer Babu was also great. I’ve seen him in a romantic movie Sammohanam last year but I didn’t know he is so in shape. I don’t understand why he isn’t biggest star – with his face, body and Mahesh Babu as a brother-in-law he should be more popular.

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    • How dare you say Baaghi is better than War! Although, weirdly, this is the reaction my friend had as well. She just loved that movie at first sight. And it made Tiger a viable box office star, so I guess a lot of people felt that way. But I still don’t see it! Nice songs, good fights, but he can’t act. Right? I’m not missing something? Tiger just stands there and makes faces and then kicks something?

      Also, the first half is almost a shot for shot remake of Varsham from Telugu.

      Most important question, is War a love story for you, yes or no?

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      • I think Tiger never really acts. It’s always : Tiger just stands there and makes faces and then kicks something” But at least in Baaghi he is more joyful, and only later more serious and angry (+ I think he is also prettier) while in War he always has the same “I’m sad/ concertrated” expression.
        The other reason I liked Baaghi more is that I detest movies about terrorists.

        War is a love story but after having read all your posts and comments about it, I thought there will be more love.

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        • I also like in Baaghi that Shraddha gets to make kicks too, and we even see Tiger teaching her so we understand how it came back again later.

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    • Sudheer Babu was an ex-national level badminton player – so, not new for him ot be fit. Peer of P. Gopichand (he was an Indian legend as a player, now coach for Saina and PV Sindhu). Sudheer was supposed to make the biopic of Gopi – not sure what happened to that.

      He started well, but made some poor selections of movies.

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  6. i think whoever will come out on top has to have a combination of talent, conventionally attractive, and also maybe some insider help or a high profile relationship, even if they’re not from the industry. Because all of the outsiders who made it recently had either high profile relationships or maybe closeness to established actors or directors. however even without that one can definitely succeed if talent and the conventional looks are there, those aren’t up for debate i think. Like Kangana definitely got noticed and established herself as a top actress but her media persona probably takes away from the “girl next door” image that most top actresses have (like Deepika, Alia). also her looks are more edgy looking, a little more fierce. though i do find her pretty.

    A lot of the actresses right now who show promising talent don’t seem to have that star power or the conventionally attractive looks. They’re pretty, but not in that “bollywood actress” way. who knows, maybe things will change slowly. but Bollywood has always preferred a certain look until now. Taapsee, Bhumi, Sanya are all pretty but don’t have the “queen of bollywood” looks. but maybe since the films are changing and less focused on a woman’s beauty (unlike before when an actress had to be beautiful and look great in a sari), maybe since the films have changed, the requirements can change too. i’d like to see any of them take the number one position, anyone from outside the industry i think would be such a great example to youth in the country to see that anyone can make it if they work hard. i actually haven’t seen any movies of Taapsee, Bhumi, Sanya or Pranutan (though i know she’s from the industry but she’s not exactly a big star kid) but i’ve heard they’re all very talented. i’d like to see them make it big. same for Fatima. it would be nice to see a Muslim actress become very successful. and they all seem to be talented. it’s just right now none of them are giving strong competition to the insiders, unfortunately. nothing against the star kids but it was always nice to see an outsider who held as much power or more than the insider who debuted around her time (amisha vs kareena (amisha was bigger at first), rani vs preity (though rani later became bigger), priyanka vs kareena (priyanka got more praise for aitraaz), deepika vs sonam (deepika became bigger later), aishwarya vs kajol (obv kajol is the better actress but aish had a lot of star power), madhuri vs karishma, etc. there always seemed to be a good outsider as competition for the insider. so i’d like to see an outsider today give really good competition to everyone else. tara sutaria would have been good but she doesn’t seem to be a good actress based on what people say. but if she was talented i think she might have been able to make it. same for disha patani. but neither of them are talented.
    sanya, taapsee, bhumi are all very pretty, don’t get me wrong, it just always seemed as if bollywood had these kind of high standards for outsiders. insiders can be short and whatnot, but all the actresses who aren’t from the industry and made it big are either beauty pageant winners, models or simply have that actress look. they were all tall and statesque. but it’d be nice to see those beauty stereotypes broken then.

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    • so i’d say so far Bhumi or Taapsee or Kiara might. they all seem talented. or maybe that beauty pageant winner Manushi Chillar will turn out to be a good actress though i kind of get the feeling she won’t, no offense

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    • I was just brainstorming on another comment that what Sanya needs is a high profile boyfriend for a while. Just to launch her into the top tier of gossip and public interest, not even to help her in the industry. I want to see her in airport arrival shots, and in gowns at award shows, and so on. But really the same is true of all those outsider actresses. I agree, they need some kind of connection to make it to the top, I think as much for PR purposes as anything else. Some link to someone the public already cares about that will make us care about them. It’s tricky, because you need someone famous enough that people care about them but not so famous they will forever over shadow you, but it can work.

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  7. I really like Sara and I would love for her to be the next top actress but so far her script selection seems kind of iffy. What I actually believe is that the next top actress hasn’t entered the industry yet. Alia’s still young and I don’t think any of the very new girls that have come in the last couple of years are going to give her much competition.

    So I ended up finishing Bharat and I really enjoyed it! You were right about Katrina having a great role and Salman was good too. Ali Abbas Zafar is one of my favorite Hindi directors and I’m really curious to see what he comes up with next. I want him to work with some of the young actors again and see what he comes up with after working with Salman all these years.

    One thing about Bharat is that Varun shot a cameo but then they decided to cut it. I’m really curious as to what that scene would have been because it looks like it was shot in the Middle East oil field portion of the movie.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/ali-abbas-zafar-on-varun-dhawan-s-cameo-in-bharat-it-is-a-very-interesting-scene-1509704-2019-04-25

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    • Hmmm. Excellent point, unless Alia follows her sister’s lead and quits young and at the top of her game. Or if Ranbir is the Worst and marries her and makes her quit because Kapoor Wives Don’t Act.

      Let’s say Alia suddenly quits to, I don’t know, go back to school to be a psychologist (something happy). In that case, I think Sara could have a shot. But you are right, if Alia keeps going another 5-10 years, that will kill Sara’s shot. She is going too far too fast, and too old. Jhanvi can dawdle along for 5 years, still be only in her mid-20s, just as Alia is dropping off.

      So happy you finished Bharat! The Salman-Kat relationship is so awesome, and just keeps getting awesomer for the whole film until it reaches Peak Awesome with their sweet 60s wedding ceremony. And I wonder what that Varun cameo would have been? Maybe a rival for Kat? A visiting engineer at the oil fields? the son of one of his co-workers?

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      • Oh man, I really don’t like Alia with Ranbir. I hope she moves on from him soon. I kind of hope Alia ends up with someone who isn’t in the film industry.

        Sara’s only two years younger than Alia and she seems so behind because she just debuted like a year ago. You’re right that Janhvi has more time.

        Does Tiger Zinda Hai have such a nice relationship as well? I know Ali Abbas Zafar made that movie as well.

        I don’t know. Based on the pictures, it seems like Varun could have been another worker there…

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        • Yep, Tiger Zinda Hai has a great Sallu-Kat relationship. I don’t like the film as a whole, because it is very heavy and violent, but Sallu-Kat are great.

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          • Rumors were that Varun was supposed to play a young Dhirubhai Ambani in Bharat. Ali Abbas Zafar has said that he will release the scene with Varun at some point.

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          • Oh, that makes TOTAL sense!!! Salman traveling through time and having a small influence on people, I can see it now. Covering for Dhirubhai so he doesn’t lose his job, or else inspiring Dhirubhai to quit and go back home.

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      • I’ve had a long night working for free (also known as volunteering) for a kids drama production and have had to deal with an unfortunate number of parents fighting with each other, so I’m a little punchy. One of those parents, who I like, teaches psychology, and I like her, but she is a bit crazy. As were all my psychology teachers in college (a subject I majored in but stopped pursuing when I realized all my teachers were kooks). And so your comment “go back to school to be a psychologist (something happy)” strikes me as insanity! Seriously how many happy psychologists do you know? But this is just me being punchy after a late night, and the only happy psychologist I know is SRK in a movie, and even then half of the viewers thought he was sad because he didn’t get to bang his young client. Yes, I’m punchy.

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        • Ha! I love your reaction! I just went with psychology because Alia’s big sister has depression so it has been part of her life since she was a little girl, and I thought maybe she would like to study it in college. She could also be an addiction counselor since her other big sister and her father are both recovering alcoholics.

          Worst case scenario is of course taking all that experience and empathy and understanding, and dating an older totally messed up guy!!!!

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  8. Still plowing away at big work project, and that’s about all I’m doing. And, as I remain completely incapable of even telling Janhvi and Sara apart (although, I learned how to spell Janhvi! Why would you give your kid that weird spelling if you expected her to be a public figure?), so I feel like I can’t weigh in on the young actress thing. I just don’t watch the right kind of movie and only recently figured out who Taapsee is. But, I would love to see Mithila Palkar rise up and be the new Konkona/Vidya/someone like that. She’s not a Queen type, and I’d really hate for her to become Queen and take a bunch of boring roles, but I’m rooting for her.

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    • I still can’t spell Janhvi ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Maybe someday.

      I like Mithila Palkar too! And she has a really young look, thanks to a small frame and a round face, so that’s good! She can keep playing quirky young women well into her 30s.

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  9. Watching: on impulse I started Shakti: The Power. WTF is up with this movie? This is not remotely what I expected from an early 2000s movie with Karisma and SRK. Karisma has done nothing but cry and look horrified after the first five minutes, and with reason. Not even sure I want more information, to be honest, so rare to be genuinely shocked these days.

    On the actress question, I haven’t seen Sara or Janhvi yet except in songs. I liked Kiara a lot in Kabir Singh, but she comes across as too thoughtful onscreen to do all the sunny heroine work. I liked Pranutan in Notebook too, based on that one part she seems versatile.

    I do think Searust is onto something. All the top heroines have something really arresting about their face and camera presence – Deepika, Kat, Anushka, Priyanka, Kareena, Aish, Rani, Juhi, Madhuri. Makes it easy to buy all of those love at first sight tropes where they’re working with underwritten characters. Not sure who of the up and comers has a face with that kind of magnetic quality.

    Listening: this song is my happy place lately.

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    • Kiara in Good Newwz had that kind of bubbly character and pulled it off. Terrible TERRIBLE movie that no one should watch, but at least it shows Kiara can do bubbly. So maybe she has a shot! I also find her face arresting in that “can’t look away” kind of way a heroine needs, so hopefully she has a shot. Taapsee, unfortunately, I love as an actress but I don’t find her face as memorable as it needs to be.

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      • Kriti really has the most classic heroine look of the younger crowd. Has she done epic romance? I get a one of the guys type energy from her romcoms

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        • Raabta! Which is only kind of epic I guess.

          It’s funny, because the “classic” heroine look in Hindi film (like, black and white classics) would be someone like Bhumi or maybe Kiara. Round face, round body, average height or smaller. But since the late 90s/early 2000s suddenly these tall skinny women are every where.

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          • Right, classic is the wrong word. Statuesque? New model in the Kat/Anushka mold?

            BTW I finished Shakti: The Power. That is a crazy brutal movie. Mostly I’m curious why it was made. Was it a Karisma showcase? Sanjay Kapoor? Nana Patekar? Or was it a message movie, trying to say something important about India?

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          • It was a “Boney Kapoor is looking for a cheap payday by ripping off a southern hit” movie. It’s a whole genre.

            Boney is the king of picking up a hit film from the southern industries and quickly and cheaply remaking it for Hindi. So you have these scripts that are different from Hindi but not so much that anyone bothers to rewrite them. That brutality, the bloody rural feud, and so on and so forth, that is all southern stuff that is close enough to Hindi that Boney didn’t change it to be urban smugglers or something familiar, but still rings a little oddly to ears used to Hindi film. Also, the many twists and complex relationships, Southern film (I think) is far better at having a large cast and complex backstories and many many shifting story gears.

            Simpler answer is that it was supposed to be a Sridevi vehicle, thus the “hero is the heroine” plot, and probably why Shahrukh signed on to begin with (he had been in a similar Sridevi vehicle back in the 90s simply because he loved her and wanted to act with her, I am guessing same thing in effect here). But Sridevi got pregnant with Khushi so dropped out, the script bounced around until Karisma took it.

            My favorite “Boney is looking for a cheap payday” movie is Run. Abhishek and Bhoomika Chawla in a movie about a young couple on the “run” from her gangster brother. Super cute romance.

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          • I agree with the cheap or paled remake. I saw both Hindi and Telugu versions. The Telugu (Southern) original Antahpuram was a classic. The same director could not replicate even 30% in Hindi. And SRK and Karishma failed to make what Jagapati Babu (now doing father/villain roles) and Soundary could, although Nana Patekar matched that of Prakash Raj.

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          • Ah, shoestring southern remake as a Sridevi vehicle makes so much more sense than anything I was imagining.

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  10. After I had complained about Netflix, Motichoor Chaknachoor appeared and I will say one thing: it sucks, don’t watch it.
    It looks like a saas-bahu style, not funny and retarded version of Ayushmann Khurranna movie! Athiya Shetty improved her acting, but her character is despicable. Nawazuddin looks like he is wondering what he is doing in this bad movie. His character is also everything but sexy. But the worst thing is that the movie pretends to be modern but is the opposite e.g in the first 30 minutes dowry has been mentioned like 10 times, and it’s said it’s a crime, but at the same time it’s shown like something normal and justified. And no matter how educated and good the bride can be, the boy’s family is always more important and the one who makes demands. Of course there is also a oversize girl, who wants to marry Nawazuddin. She is rich and soon will be a lawer, but no luck, she is fat so our jobless and poor guy will never marry her because who would like a bride like that?
    All those things are in the first 40 minutes. I give up, this movie is too bad even for me.

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    • I saw it pop up and thought “Angie can finally watch it”. Thank goodness, you saved us all. I will continue to ignore this movie, and instead try to find time for Marjaavaan.

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        • I’m too lazy to click the link, were the mother and father single or did they also run out on their spouses?

          And for our movie remake, do we want them to be widow/widower or divorced or married unhappily? Or some combination?

          Also, can it be Anil Kapoor?

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          • They run out on their spouses, that’s why it’s so scandalous. I want the movie exactly as the real story. The father of the groom is some kind of politician so I’m really impressed he decided to elope.

            Anil would be prefect. And how about Harsh as his son?

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          • Can we have the young couple be an arranged-to-love marriage? Like, when the wedding started they weren’t into it and then they fell in love over the course of the preparations and stuff, so it ends with them running off too even though both families are now against the marriage? Or even better, they fall in love post-elopement? Like, they start talking honestly because they realize the other one is the only one who can fully understand what they are feeling?

            And Anil can be trapped by his ambitious wife and in-laws, if it was up to him they would just live on the family land and farm but she forced him into politics and stuff. And his heroine, whoever she is, can a beautiful global wealthy kind of rich wife but really she hates dressing up and all the rest and just wanted to stay home and cook and take care of her kids. When they first meet, they hate each other because she seems snobby and like she looks down on him (but really she is shy) and he seems too loud and pushy (but really he is just trying to get past the social awkwardness). The wedding is going to be at the family mansion, for various reasons Anil and the wife end up traveling in a single car together with a driver while everyone else is on a bus. Obviously the car breaks down, they have to spend a night and a day alone traveling, reveal their true selves, fall in love but it is unspoken. Lots of wedding drama and longing gazes, finally Anil goes to her and proposes, she resists at first but then is convinced and they elope in the night. Happy happy, finally free. Until they realize their children are miserable and return in order to help their kids free themselves too.

            Anil-Madhuri reunion movie maybe? Or Raveena Tandon? Or Shefali Shah if we want to re-do DDD. Harsh can be the sensitive son who was always closer to his father and afraid of his mother, and is at sea when his father leaves. And Mithili from Little Things and Karwaan and Chopsticks can be the daughter who isn’t sure what she wants from life and agreed to the wedding out of feeling lost. If the older couple elopes at the interval, the second half can cut between Harsh and Mithili talking on the phone and eventually meeting in secret as they start to try to figure out their lives now that everything has blown up, and Anil-Whoever having fights about picking towels up off the floor and boring stuff like that as they try to figure out living together.

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          • The real story is even more romantic. I mean, I disapprove leaving all this mess, and causing the scandal few weeks before the wedding, but I read the eloped couple knew each other in their youth:

            ** It is learnt that the middle-aged man and woman knew each other from their younger days. They were in love when they were neighbours in Surat’s Katargam area and had even tried to elope some years ago. But their relation didn’t end in wedlock as the woman was married off by her family to a diamond merchant.**

            Did they children had arranged or love engagment? Did eloped couple know the who is the father/mother of of their future daughter/son in law? I have so many questions!

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          • If we put it in a movie that the father of the groom sees the bride’s mother and flashes back to their younger days and failed elopement, everyone would complain because the plot wasn’t “realistic”.

            On the other hand, Anil as the older version and Harsh as the younger version?

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  11. I AM SO FREAKING EXCITED FOR STREET DANCER I CAN HARDLY STAND IT. I bought my tickets on TUESDAY because they were available, I’m seeing it on Saturday and dragging my dad with me. I don’t want to go to work tomorrow purely because it’s the big hurdle between me and the weekend. And Street Dancer. I want it to be good so badly. And I want Varun to be my friend.

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    • The early reviews have been positive so I’ve been really excited the past couple of days! I want it to be good so badly as well! The part that sucks is that I can’t watch it until next weekend because it’s not releasing where I live. This is the first Varun movie I’m not seeing the first weekend of release since Dishoom ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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    • I refreshed and refreshed all day wednesday until the tickets were up and then bought the two best seats for me and my friend. And then I checked back and no one else had bought tickets yet? So I guess it is just you and me who are “I will buy tickets in advance because surely they will sell out” excited!

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  12. I just watched 1917 last night. Well made in terms of what they set out to do. Definitely see it on as immersive a platform as you can. Not necessarily a repeat watch, but definitely worth seeing once.

    Did you know that 1917 is a Reliance Entertainment product?

    At the start of the movie, it says DreamWorks, then it says Reliance Entertainment.

    So I wikipedia’s it.

    Turns out that Reliance Entertainment owns both DreamWorks and Amblin entertainment, both Steven Spielberg properties. I might have known that at one time but since forgot.

    SoI guess they threw DreamWorks up the since is it’s a known Hollywood brand.

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    • My interpretation of the DreamWorks buy: Mrs. Ambani is planning a party and says to her husband “what do you think would be a new and exciting thing?” Her husband says “We always have the same old Indian celebrities, let’s get some Hollywood celebrities this time”. Mrs. Ambani says “What a great idea! We can bring someone in from Hollywood and have Amitabh interview him, serve a nice dinner, have some music, people will talk about this party for years.” And then Mr. Ambani goes on his online shopping webpage for companies, notices DreamWorks is almost bankrupt from trying to make Lincoln, picks it up with his lunch money, and calls up his wife and says “Hey honey, great news! I just bought Steven Spielberg for your party!”

      I know that’s not what actually happened, but I found it really hilarious that along with getting a Hollywood position and making a savvy business move (I do think DreamWorks was on really shaky ground trying to fund Lincoln and Ambani probably got it cheap), they also flew Spielberg out right quick so they could show him off at a party.

      On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:26 AM dontcallitbollywood wrote:

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